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Old 2nd April 2011 | 14:58
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Ireland Pilot Training: no two seaters!!

Strange,
There doesnt seem to be any R22's or HU269's left in Ireland for Training on!
Seem's all training is done on 44's nowadays

What's going on?
Mabey Im wrong, But I couldnt get a lesson in a 2 seater chopper when I got in touch with the schools in weston, cork or even galway for that matter!

Look's like, I'll have to take my business up to a school in the north of Ireland
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Old 2nd April 2011 | 15:47
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Yea I heard that recently myself.

The only schools left with R22s in the North is, Aero Heli in Newtownards, Unique Helicopters in Enniskillen and Cutting Edge Helicopters in Derry. Even at that Aero and Cutting Edge only have 1 R22 each if I'm correct. Unique only has two.
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Old 2nd April 2011 | 19:54
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R22's in NI Flight Schools

Cutting Edge does not have an R22 at the moment. They lost their R22 in a training accident last summer at Eglinton. Only operating R44 at the moment.
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Old 3rd April 2011 | 15:21
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Come to Liverpool instead

Chris the Sheep, have you thought about jumping on the budget airlines to Liverpool instead?

Helicentre.com has been training a number of student pilots from Ireland recently and they've both R22s and 300Cbi as well as all the usual bigger stuff.

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Old 3rd April 2011 | 18:59
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AeroHeli in newtownards have 2 R22's, 2 R44's, 1 Hu269, open 7 days a week, all available for training and self fly hire.
They also have an AS350 B3 but its for charter only.
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Old 4th April 2011 | 09:08
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Re R22 at Cutting Edge

New R22 coming online this month... Call Jason at Cutting Edge in Derry for more info.
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Old 4th April 2011 | 17:30
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Why on earth would you head North to train in a 22, when you can train in a 44 in Weston for an extra 3k?Minus hotel and travel costs.
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Old 4th April 2011 | 18:06
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for an extra 3k?
That's about another 10 hours and if it takes more than the minimum hours, then an R22 will be an even bigger saving over the R44. That's why, at a guess?

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Old 4th April 2011 | 18:13
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Yeah but the R44 is nearly a proper helicopter as opposed to the R22 which is a bloody death trap.
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Old 4th April 2011 | 18:46
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Have training standards improved in Dublin?
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Old 4th April 2011 | 19:36
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Speaking of Dublin this week..

Home | Irish Helicopter Owners and Pilots Association
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Old 4th April 2011 | 19:52
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People may find that the reason there are no 22s or 269s around anymore is the simple fact that nobody is training, id be surprised to find any school in Ireland with more than 4-5 students.
If they do, evryone nearly always wants to convert straight onto the 44. So, anybody doing a cost effective breakdown of figures, ( and when i mean cost effective i mean tests, examiners fees, 44 grondschool etc ) there is barely nothing in it price wise, BUT you get the benefit of having all the experience in the 44.
For an operator, i know first hand it costs serious money to insure the machines, so if the schools pull 22s offline and offset the insurance against 44 running costs, everybody comes out happy!!
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Old 6th April 2011 | 20:20
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expensive

Yes Chris ,they are scarce on the ground and in the air but flight training in Ireland has very expensive ,why not try the US, it is more pilot friendly.

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Old 7th April 2011 | 18:07
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Found one !!

In Knock of all places !!

Thank you god

Oh and its an R22
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Old 11th May 2011 | 18:44
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R44 Dual Rate in Ireland now €399 Per Hour.
R44 Dual Rate in Northern Ireland now €535 Per Hour !
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Old 11th May 2011 | 19:09
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€399 where? That's a good price...
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Old 11th May 2011 | 20:03
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Executive Helicopter?

I thought Executive Helicopters in Galway gave training in their 22 Betas but I could be wrong
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Old 11th May 2011 | 20:48
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The reason there are no 2 seaters is the new regulation in Ireland to have both an instructor and a second safety pilot. When asked for the reason, the Ireland Minister of Aviation said "To be sure, to be sure".

I'll get me coat....
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Old 11th May 2011 | 20:59
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do executive in galway have a 44 for training or self fly hire at present
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Old 11th May 2011 | 21:05
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Haha good one John

If there's a flight school accepting 399 Euro Per Hour on the R44 things must be bad. I'm guessing it's the flight school in Knock??!
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