Ireland Pilot Training: no two seaters!!

[krypton_john]

Davy, I do have to admit I've never actually heard an Irish person say "to be sure, to be sure" or even "begorra"!

[Low G]

???

A 44 for €399? An owner cant operate one for that, never mind a
flight school.

€399 -
Vat @21% 83.79
€315.71-
fuel €130.00
€185.71-
Instructor @ 50
€135.71 left for-landing fees/ hangar/insurance/maintanance/depreciation,
finance/ a rebuild fund and the flight schools margin?

Buyer beware! Corners are being cut.

[Pandalet]

You've miscalculated VAT - the VAT component, at 21%, on a total cost of €399, is about €69.

Just sayin'.

[heliboy999]

You could hop on the Air Aaron flight into Southend on sea. We have a lovely 300 CBi here.

[206Fan]

Back to this topic. Out of curiosity is there anybody on here training in the North or South at the minute?

[TRTR]

Aeroheli, Newtonards

[500 Fan]

I don't think too many are training in the Republic at the moment. As far as I know, there is no one training on helicopters in Weston currently and the situation might be the same in Cork. Skywest Aviation is the new name of the Eirecopter-Blue Star join-up but things seem to be quite at the moment. Executive Helicopters might have a few undergoing instruction at the moment. The last time I was in Galway I saw one of their R22s out and about. Hopefully the Irish heli-industry is at the bottom of this downturn in business and things will turn around soon. It can't get any worse!

500 Fan.

[206Fan]

I was out this morning in the 300. We landed in Newtownards for Fuel. Very quite up there aswel. Aeros R44 was out for a while, not much else going on!

[Rotorhead412]

Aeroheli in Newtownards are the busiest school in Ireland at the moment, with approx 7-8 students the last i heard.

There are no R22's left in the Republic of Ireland and approx 4 x R44's.

Works out alot cheaper up north anyway, £280-£295 per hour up North and €399 down here for an R22 (when they were still around that is).

[206Fan]

Good to hear Aero are busy. Yea it's £290 in the North at the minute.

500,

I noticed one of Skywest / Eirecopters Schweizers (EI-DNU) up for sale on the Internet the other day.

[airwolf1091]

Guys, i have been reading this thread and i dont know for sure but some ppl on here have their heads up there own holes.

I happen to know one of the instructors who works for Skywest Aviation, based out of Weston, and i chat to him on a regular basis when im home. He has told me that he has had the busiest january in all his years working as a instructor and totalled over 40 hrs tuition in this month alone.

500 fan i have no idea were your sourcing your info from but i suggest you find a new one..

On another note yes the 300cbi has been sold i am reliably told and it was done for a reason which was to purchase another R44 which they now operate out of there new approved base facility down in Newcastle airfield. Concidering they now operate in 3 bases in the republic, have just been approved for the first ATO in Ireland and a brand new integrated course, i would hardly call this shutting up shop.!!!!!

I know for definite that they also have a Robinson R22 which they would put back online for any serious people wishing to undertake a full time PPL/CPL/FI course or hour building.

I know from my own experience the rates Skywest charge are the cheapest in ireland including the north. Packages are also available for serious enquiries with regards to SFH and block booking hrs.

Folks i think people forget the name of this site and the words included it and i would emphasise and focus on the word Rumour, seriously, if your going to post on here at least get some facts correct or if you cant be bothered to find them out stop posting rubbish!!!!!

AW

[111M]

Skywest

Skywest have sold their 300Cbi, they have just bought a Raven 1 which is currently based at their newly approved base at Newcastle Airfield, Co Wicklow. Doing great rates on self-fly hire with it from Newcastle. They also have a 22 which they use for full time courses from any of their bases.
They currently have three full time instructors so they must be doing ok.

[airwolf1091]

Out of curiosity, were are people getting all this information from, ie - no 22s left, also €399 for a 22 in the republic, no training out of Dublin. There seems to be a lot of misleading information appearing on here.

[500 Fan]

Welcome to PPRuNe, Airwolf. Here is one (alleged) definition for the word "rumour";

"A story or statement in general circulation without confirmation or certainty as to facts."

If it is absolute facts you want, you had better have a look at PPFaNe instead.

Anything I have said in relation to the topic of this thread is what I have heard: it may be correct or it may be incorrect. I qualified what I said with the phrase "As far as I know" so that should have alerted the reader to the veracity of my statement. I believed what I said to be near enough to the truth but if it isn't, you have my humblest apologies. I doubt any of us lowly PPLs have deliberately stated anything here that we know to be absolutely untrue.

In any case, I am delighted to hear that I am in fact wrong and that Skywest are busy training people. Long may it continue and I hope the training sector here gets even busier.

500 Fan. (A suitably chastened rumour-monger.)

[airwolf1091]

500

By saying " things seem to be quiet at the moment " Is hardly a rumour, it sounds more to be that of a personal opinion. Like you said yourself, as a lowly PPL, exactly how much time then would you spend in the airport were they train.

Ppl should find the time to actually find out what is happening and provide good info to pass on to others, instead of using the title of this forum to gossip

[Low G]

It is great to see such an upstanding member of the community investing more of his hard earned cash into the aviation business in Ireland!!!