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Old 28th Mar 2011, 13:55
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So at the end of the month when many are soon expecting their pay for March; Longmint staff still haven't been paid fully for Feb?

Sterling 145 is shortly to expire, even with the right people how are they going to pay for the renewal?

How is the rest of the group looking?

Maybe this thread should be called " is this an accident waiting to happen"?
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Old 28th Mar 2011, 14:39
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Devil P 145 - Do you mean P45?

This company has been an accident waiting to happen for some time and it is only down to the professionalism of the staff that there was not a major accident. You cannot behave as the Longmint directors have in aviation without affecting flight safety. Money worries can be a distraction for anyone but even worse when they are not of your making and you have no control over it. Longmint directors wouldn't know about that!

Rumour was that National Grid had given Sterling 14 days to get back to flying and I don't think they have been flying for National Grid today. But have National Grid pulled the contract? Maybe Sterling are just going to put another bid in for it. This time they can put in a low bid as they have very few staff that they pay.

With such a litigation happy company are they going to sue National Grid?
More money in LEGAL FEES. Well they have to justify where all the money has gone somehow.

I also heard that all the staff were NOT PAID and if you put your notice in you have no chance of getting what is owed but you are still expected to work. Wonder what they are doing about references

Do people need a P45 to get another job? Maybe all the staff should book into Newick Park and stage a sit in until they get what is owed.
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Old 28th Mar 2011, 14:54
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Do people need a P45 to get another job?
No you don't ... and it's even less of a problem when we start the new tax year on 6th April.

When you start a new job without a P45, your new employer will require you to complete and sign a P46 form on which you will confirm that you have no other job nor are claiming taxable benefits. HMR&C will use this form to put you on a Month 1 basis for tax. As you'd be starting out at the beginning of the tax year, then there would be no difference. A P46 instead of a P45 only becomes a problem (for the employee) at the end of a tax year when there has been a period of unemployment as you can't get back your unused personal allowance.

Hope that helps.

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Old 28th Mar 2011, 20:53
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Whirls I think you should change your name to "Font of all knowledge"
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Old 28th Mar 2011, 21:31
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Thank you ... but maybe just "Font of all Taxation Knowledge"

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Old 29th Mar 2011, 09:54
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Overheard, somewhere in the east of england..........

National Grid have ceased their contract with Longmint/sterling.
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Old 29th Mar 2011, 16:01
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Does that mean there are no contracts left at Sterling
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Old 29th Mar 2011, 17:00
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Unhappy

Not sure but if there are any they probably are in the process of moving elsewhere.
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Old 30th Mar 2011, 05:46
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According to the CAA's latest list of AOC holders - Sterling don't have one:

http://www.caa.co.uk/docs/1196/AOCListN_Z_20110328.pdf
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Old 30th Mar 2011, 07:51
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It appears that National Grid have move to Helicentre at Leics. and at least one member of staff has moved as well as a previous employee now employed by National Grid I would think that more will follow as it appears there are no contract left
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Old 30th Mar 2011, 10:04
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Sterling had three pipeline contracts, PDG picked up two for a four month interim until National Grid go for something a bit more permanent (from 1st July, I suspect)

twelveoclockhigh - refer back to post #28 on this thread (page 2) where I noted the CAA suspended the AOC on 22nd February
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Old 30th Mar 2011, 17:36
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Hey mods.....This is painful, let's kill the thread......just has LMFlyer has killed Sterling.
Sorry for the employess but looks like there is not much left but bones to pick over?
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Old 30th Mar 2011, 19:15
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Devil Statutory Demand

Before you kill it off; rumour has it here in the East Midlands (and this a rumour network!) that Longmint/Sterling have been served with a Statutory Demand

Anyone care to comment or confirm
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Old 30th Mar 2011, 20:03
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On the contrary, I think any bones should be picked over - and in the open.

I dont mean slanging matches - but reasoned discussion on the decline and fall of such a good and reputable organisation.

Personally, I'd like to know what business and interaction factors made this mess, but not exactly who made the mess.
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Old 30th Mar 2011, 20:18
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Time for a New Thread?

Yes this is painful but that is because of what is happening and therefore rigga is correct that the information should continue to be discussed not just slagging people off.

However the future East Anglian Ambulance is now secure, so the title is misleading.

So is it time for a new thread?

"how not to run a helicopter company"
"how to make a small fortune from a large one"
"People you shouldn't work for"
"how not to get paid!"

All tongue in cheek of course
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"How to become a millionaire in aviation"


First, you need to be a multi-millionaire...
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Old 31st Mar 2011, 13:47
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Is there any law against a company issuing pay statements but not paying what is on that statement ie: expenses or maybe even salary?. Or Sterling may have been claiming expenses from National Grid but not passing them on to the workforce that have incurred those expenses?
Of course there is; it's called Breach of Contract and, in this case, the contract is the employment contract. But sadly, if the company has no money in the bank, there is not a lot the law can do to protect you.

In the event of a company going into liquidation, employees' salaries are fairly high up the list of preferential creditors but only to the tune of £800 each. If salaries owed are greater than that, then the balance becomes part of the "pot" of trade creditors who may get a pittance at the end. Expenses also are sadly part of the pot.

Statutory Demands Explained

And may I wish Chief Pilot all the best in the future.

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Old 31st Mar 2011, 13:52
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Yeah, witness the Biggin Hill Helicopters debacle. Despite all the small claims, employee tribunials, CCJs, notice to wind up etc etc..nobody ever got their money back, employees and customers.
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Old 1st Apr 2011, 07:33
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I can understand if your pay statement say one thing and you get paid somthing else, does the same apply if your pay statement has a payment date different to the day you are actually paid?
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Yes - your employment contract should state the day(s) on which you should receive your salary and the dates for which the salary applies i.e. "your salary will be £36,000 per annum payable per calendar month and will be paid on the last Friday of the month by direct credit transfer".

Any deviation from that (outside mutually agreed amendments) is a breach of contract. But, if your employer has no money, whaddya gonna do?

Anyone who is self-employed/freelance is in an even weaker position unfortunately.

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