East Anglian Air Ambulance temporarily grounded/Longmint status
Look all I object too is the utter bo~~ox that wnw is spreading.
Wnw is stating that Sterling are flying "jollies".
1.We all know the staff aren't paid up to date.
2.We all know they have no AOC.
3.We all Know they have no Part M post holder.
So what self respecting professional pilot is going to risk HIS license, HIS liberty and HIS career illegally flying a non compliant helicopter for a company that may dissappear by the time this post is read.
Come on Boys and Gals let WNW go back to OZ to listen to all his Munchkin friends and lets cut the Cr@p.
Wnw is stating that Sterling are flying "jollies".
1.We all know the staff aren't paid up to date.
2.We all know they have no AOC.
3.We all Know they have no Part M post holder.
So what self respecting professional pilot is going to risk HIS license, HIS liberty and HIS career illegally flying a non compliant helicopter for a company that may dissappear by the time this post is read.
Come on Boys and Gals let WNW go back to OZ to listen to all his Munchkin friends and lets cut the Cr@p.
WNW
Stop trying to back pedal now... And I quote "was that they are managing to fly "jollies". How can they do that without an AOC?"
For some one who has just admitted not to be involved with aviation just what is your purpose with all this misinformation that you are posting.
Did the lovely Lucy reject your advances?
Because for the life of me I cannot see what you are trying to achieve you obviously have no idea what the poor souls at Sterling are going through with the threat of losing livelihoods.
I don't condone what the longmint directors are doing but posting up wild accusations about the remaining staff has no place here.....
Shame on you WNW
Stop trying to back pedal now... And I quote "was that they are managing to fly "jollies". How can they do that without an AOC?"
For some one who has just admitted not to be involved with aviation just what is your purpose with all this misinformation that you are posting.
Did the lovely Lucy reject your advances?
Because for the life of me I cannot see what you are trying to achieve you obviously have no idea what the poor souls at Sterling are going through with the threat of losing livelihoods.
I don't condone what the longmint directors are doing but posting up wild accusations about the remaining staff has no place here.....
Shame on you WNW
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What are TETRA radios?
Lowfat
I did say that it was rumour. At no point did I state it was fact.
You seem to feel that you have all the facts here. I have never been that presumptious.
As for the "lovely" Lucy. I have heard her called many things, by people that know her, and lovely has never been one of them.
You are assuming again that I know nothing about the "poor souls" at Sterling. I never said that
. What I do know is that they have worked diligently to get the task done in spite of the dispicable behaviour of the Longmint directors.
This is about Sterling personnel, which by your own admission is not you. The "people" deserve better than this and they deserve to know the facts but the Longmint Directors are not forthcoming. If they were bankers they would be getting a bonus and unlike the bankers they would deserve it.
As you seem to know so much maybe you can explain about the TETRA radios and avionics equipment that were apparently paid for by the EAAAS. Being non technical, as well as not up on aviation law, can you please explain to me in simple terms why Sterling would not have provided this equipment as part of the fit on the Air Ambulance and how easy it is for the EAAAS to retrieve it all.
I did say that it was rumour. At no point did I state it was fact.
You seem to feel that you have all the facts here. I have never been that presumptious.
As for the "lovely" Lucy. I have heard her called many things, by people that know her, and lovely has never been one of them.
You are assuming again that I know nothing about the "poor souls" at Sterling. I never said that
. What I do know is that they have worked diligently to get the task done in spite of the dispicable behaviour of the Longmint directors. This is about Sterling personnel, which by your own admission is not you. The "people" deserve better than this and they deserve to know the facts but the Longmint Directors are not forthcoming. If they were bankers they would be getting a bonus and unlike the bankers they would deserve it.
As you seem to know so much maybe you can explain about the TETRA radios and avionics equipment that were apparently paid for by the EAAAS. Being non technical, as well as not up on aviation law, can you please explain to me in simple terms why Sterling would not have provided this equipment as part of the fit on the Air Ambulance and how easy it is for the EAAAS to retrieve it all.
Lowfat said:
"1.We all know the staff aren't paid up to date.
2.We all know they have no AOC.
3.We all Know they have no Part M post holder.
So what self respecting professional pilot is going to risk HIS license, HIS liberty and HIS career illegally flying a non compliant helicopter for a company that may dissappear by the time this post is read."
No mention yet of the MRO approval being withdrawn?
No-one has yet stated that the Heli's are not compliant? or that the documentation is not compliant?
Officially, they have no AOC due to the lack of a post holder.
And/or?....
"1.We all know the staff aren't paid up to date.
2.We all know they have no AOC.
3.We all Know they have no Part M post holder.
So what self respecting professional pilot is going to risk HIS license, HIS liberty and HIS career illegally flying a non compliant helicopter for a company that may dissappear by the time this post is read."
No mention yet of the MRO approval being withdrawn?
No-one has yet stated that the Heli's are not compliant? or that the documentation is not compliant?
Officially, they have no AOC due to the lack of a post holder.
And/or?....
....and Tetra radios are only for Home Office use - not for commercial aviation, hence HO Ownership.
(don't ask me why I'd know that, I might have to 'silence' you afterwards)
(don't ask me why I'd know that, I might have to 'silence' you afterwards)
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can you please explain to me in simple terms why Sterling would not have provided this equipment as part of the fit on the Air Ambulance
You may also find that Sterling didn't have the necessary approvals to install this modification. Also requires co-operation with several sub-contract agencies.
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Apparently the "jollies" could be - not actual flying but taking money for "jollies" at the sea side. Future bookings? If that is actually happening "Mr. Lowfat Aviation Law expert" can tell us and he can tell us if it is legal.
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Chief Pilot job available at Sterling. Would you take it?
Thanks for that folks it was all very helpful.
Rigga
What do you mean by MRO approval being withdrawn? I may not be very knowledgeable but I am very curious. Luckily I am not a cat!
Qualityman
I understand about selling Red Letter Days (wasn't it them that went bankrupt at one point?) etc but they never intended to fly the purchasers themselves it was always meant to be contracted out.
If Sterling/Longmint are selling "tickets" is the money being ringfenced to ensure that the customer will actually get what they are paying for, or is it going into the same pot as the unpaid salaries?
Sterling have no AOC, no CAM, no Chief engineer and the Chief pilot is soon to depart (has anyone seen his job advertised?) and this list is not definitive. From what I can gather they are soon to have no contracts, hence no income. Maybe Lucy is hoping that National Grid have a lobotomy before 28th March 2011, cannot see any other way they are going to let Sterling keep the contract.
When they did have profitable contracts and money coming in they were still not in a position to pay salaries in full (this, to my knowledge, never happened in Gerry Hermer's day). So please gentlemen/ladies do not trample each other in the rush for any vacancies advertised at Sterling.
Rigga
What do you mean by MRO approval being withdrawn? I may not be very knowledgeable but I am very curious. Luckily I am not a cat!
Qualityman
I understand about selling Red Letter Days (wasn't it them that went bankrupt at one point?) etc but they never intended to fly the purchasers themselves it was always meant to be contracted out.
If Sterling/Longmint are selling "tickets" is the money being ringfenced to ensure that the customer will actually get what they are paying for, or is it going into the same pot as the unpaid salaries?
Sterling have no AOC, no CAM, no Chief engineer and the Chief pilot is soon to depart (has anyone seen his job advertised?) and this list is not definitive. From what I can gather they are soon to have no contracts, hence no income. Maybe Lucy is hoping that National Grid have a lobotomy before 28th March 2011, cannot see any other way they are going to let Sterling keep the contract.
When they did have profitable contracts and money coming in they were still not in a position to pay salaries in full (this, to my knowledge, never happened in Gerry Hermer's day). So please gentlemen/ladies do not trample each other in the rush for any vacancies advertised at Sterling.
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Sorry Digital Flight Deck and all other readers. I never intended my posts to become "handbags at dawn".
I was very taken back by the strength of response by someone (who has no involvement with Sterling/Longmint of course) to certain posts and unfortunately I do enjoy winding some people up.
I will do my best to behave in future. But sometimes the opportunity is just too hard to resist.
I was very taken back by the strength of response by someone (who has no involvement with Sterling/Longmint of course) to certain posts and unfortunately I do enjoy winding some people up.
I will do my best to behave in future. But sometimes the opportunity is just too hard to resist.
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is the money being ringfenced to ensure that the customer will actually get what they are paying for,
If the worst came to the worst and Sterling became insolvent, the insolvency practitioners would treat those payments in advance like any other trade creditor - they are not legally required to be ringfenced.
This is why you don't pay up front.
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Just looked-up "insolvent" in the dictionary, it says: "not able to discharge all debts or liabilities".
Since Longmint, for quite some time now, have consistently paid their staff either late, partially or in stages, then does that not fit the description of "insolvent" already?
My reasoning is that they must have a pay-day on which they should be paid in full, and if not then it seems the debt is not discharged.
Discuss.
Since Longmint, for quite some time now, have consistently paid their staff either late, partially or in stages, then does that not fit the description of "insolvent" already?
My reasoning is that they must have a pay-day on which they should be paid in full, and if not then it seems the debt is not discharged.
Discuss.
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Unless a business declares/volunteers itself to be insolvent, it's otherwise up to the courts to decide. And for the courts to decide, someone must bring an insolvency action against them (winding-up petition).
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Rigga
"...and Tetra radios are only for Home Office use - not for commercial aviation, hence HO Ownership."
Not correct TETRA is a semi digital method of sending information it is used by a number of company's throughout the world, the Home offices uses a Tetra system supplied by Airwave solutions, that is for public services, AT VAST expense (PFI)
From Tetra MOU
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AirRadio has launched its latest TETRA network service along with a Digital Showcase profiling a digital communications service for airports, at London Heathrow Airport. AR-en, the Enhanced Network from AirRadio, is the system deployed at the world’s busiest international airport.
The network at Heathrow is the single largest TETRA network dedicated to commercial use in the UK and replicates the AirRadio system that has been in use at Birmingham International Airport since 2006. The system now includes data compression software [i]-SqZ from Infomatrix which maximises the speed of data transfer over the AR-en network for live data applications. The Digital Showcase illustrates and demonstrates the ways that data can improve operational performance in a live network environment. Suppliers of terminal equipment for use on the network include: EADS, Motorola, Sepura and Teltronic. Applications currently being made available include Airport Intranet Access, Task Allocation, Picture & Video Transmission, WAP Access, Messaging and Airport Informat
An overview
What is TETRA Mobile Radio :: Radio-Electronics.Com
It is a shame to see good people being shafted.
"...and Tetra radios are only for Home Office use - not for commercial aviation, hence HO Ownership."
Not correct TETRA is a semi digital method of sending information it is used by a number of company's throughout the world, the Home offices uses a Tetra system supplied by Airwave solutions, that is for public services, AT VAST expense (PFI)
From Tetra MOU
UK
AirRadio has launched its latest TETRA network service along with a Digital Showcase profiling a digital communications service for airports, at London Heathrow Airport. AR-en, the Enhanced Network from AirRadio, is the system deployed at the world’s busiest international airport.
The network at Heathrow is the single largest TETRA network dedicated to commercial use in the UK and replicates the AirRadio system that has been in use at Birmingham International Airport since 2006. The system now includes data compression software [i]-SqZ from Infomatrix which maximises the speed of data transfer over the AR-en network for live data applications. The Digital Showcase illustrates and demonstrates the ways that data can improve operational performance in a live network environment. Suppliers of terminal equipment for use on the network include: EADS, Motorola, Sepura and Teltronic. Applications currently being made available include Airport Intranet Access, Task Allocation, Picture & Video Transmission, WAP Access, Messaging and Airport Informat
An overview
What is TETRA Mobile Radio :: Radio-Electronics.Com
It is a shame to see good people being shafted.
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I bumped into Gerry H a few days ago.
He always cared desperately about "his baby" when he owned the Company, but in the many, many years I have known him and been in aviation, rarely have I seen anyone so distressed about something over which he has no control, or if it comes down to it, no interest in any more.
I think that most people at Sterling now know that it'll take a miracle to save the Company, those who stay on do so because Gerry, through his professionalism and personal ethics instilled that loyalty and they stuck with him even in the most desperate of times (and there were a few of those). It wasn't all rose tinted glasses and he'll be the first to admit it, but at least he was an honourable employer and operator.
Personally I think those times are well and truly gone and they should take whatever they can get until they get what they want, but staying on to work for nothing for a bunch of Charlatans isn't an option.
He always cared desperately about "his baby" when he owned the Company, but in the many, many years I have known him and been in aviation, rarely have I seen anyone so distressed about something over which he has no control, or if it comes down to it, no interest in any more.
I think that most people at Sterling now know that it'll take a miracle to save the Company, those who stay on do so because Gerry, through his professionalism and personal ethics instilled that loyalty and they stuck with him even in the most desperate of times (and there were a few of those). It wasn't all rose tinted glasses and he'll be the first to admit it, but at least he was an honourable employer and operator.
Personally I think those times are well and truly gone and they should take whatever they can get until they get what they want, but staying on to work for nothing for a bunch of Charlatans isn't an option.
Ms Witch,
My apologies for spooking you - I meant to say that the MRO approval hasn't been withdrawn yet as there has been no anouncement of that. Obviously the Chf Eng has not left (yet) or has already been replaced?
500e,
You obviously jump on people for a living and with both feet stretched out in front of you, even when you write the answer to your own question. Tetra or Tetra? You decide which I meant.
My apologies for spooking you - I meant to say that the MRO approval hasn't been withdrawn yet as there has been no anouncement of that. Obviously the Chf Eng has not left (yet) or has already been replaced?
500e,
You obviously jump on people for a living and with both feet stretched out in front of you, even when you write the answer to your own question. Tetra or Tetra? You decide which I meant.
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Good luck to all Sterling personnel
I'm being a good witch today, my intention was to annoy certain people that I believe monitor this site. I did not intend to offend anyone else whether they admit to working for Sterling or not. The workers at Sterling are a great bunch and deserve much better from their employers. I have never intended to imply otherwise.
Gerry Hermer inspired loyalty in his staff and whilst there, during Longmints time, he protected the workforce as best he could, including delaying his departure for those that came across from TAMS.
The current Chief pilot (soon to depart from the company) is working very hard behind the scenes to get the best for his staff, sometimes to his own detriment. YOU CAN'T GET BLOOD OUT OF A STONE no matter how hard you squeeze.
The issue here is "what can anyone do?". That is the frustration of many but the reality is we ARE NOT DEALING WITH "NORMAL" PEOPLE. Nothing appears to matter to them except power and money. Normal rules do not apply.
For Sterling I feel that the end is near. I can only hope that with it comes the downfall of the people that have ruined it, and many other companies too.
The funerals of the Longmint directors would have a lot of people in attendance. Very few I imagine to mourn their passing but many to dance on their graves
Gerry Hermer inspired loyalty in his staff and whilst there, during Longmints time, he protected the workforce as best he could, including delaying his departure for those that came across from TAMS.
The current Chief pilot (soon to depart from the company) is working very hard behind the scenes to get the best for his staff, sometimes to his own detriment. YOU CAN'T GET BLOOD OUT OF A STONE no matter how hard you squeeze.
The issue here is "what can anyone do?". That is the frustration of many but the reality is we ARE NOT DEALING WITH "NORMAL" PEOPLE. Nothing appears to matter to them except power and money. Normal rules do not apply.
For Sterling I feel that the end is near. I can only hope that with it comes the downfall of the people that have ruined it, and many other companies too.
The funerals of the Longmint directors would have a lot of people in attendance. Very few I imagine to mourn their passing but many to dance on their graves
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Raised eyebrows
I share this one on the basis that this is a Rumour Network. Heard yesterday that Longmint are planning another purchase 
in a more westerly direction. I guess ti's dependent on the bank doing its due diligence - wonder if that includes reading this thread!!
Nothing like going out with a bang More for the hovering vultures to feast on when the time comes
in a more westerly direction. I guess ti's dependent on the bank doing its due diligence - wonder if that includes reading this thread!!Nothing like going out with a bang
More for the hovering vultures to feast on when the time comes
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So that'll be FAST's aircraft re-mortgaged to pay for the new purchase then. 
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Whirls
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