CHC 332L Rollover Event at Boundary Bay
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ShyTorque wrote
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Others alluding to tail rotor maintenance related incident and autopilot run away.Some have likened it to an incident in Malaysia some 3 years ago which from my knowledge never happened. (I’m sure the incident happened but not in Malaysia) Stories of it being a L2, a L1 and even the old 330j gets a honourable mention.(Still they are related by linage in a way)
If you’re all right and I have no reason to doubt that you’re not. Then those boys were indeed having a bit of very very bad luck that day.
There was a poster on here that went by the username of Idiot Spotter and all he or her use to write in his posts was "you have been spotted"
I miss his input
So as not to be hypocritical or to be hypocritical depending on how you read this. I would of guessed that the "wind just blew with light fuel" but a post earlier (No 2) states the weather that day was no wind. So probably not the cause, so who knows?
CHC people been told not to talk to the media which is probably standard these days. But come on guys spill the beans for us. Please
Ground resonance a possibility, by the look of it.
Forward servo found in fully extended position with flight controls neutral or flat pitch. This would cause uncommanded right and rear roll moment."
Left L/G collapsed, aircraft rolled over, no-one hurt - end of story.
If you’re all right and I have no reason to doubt that you’re not. Then those boys were indeed having a bit of very very bad luck that day.
There was a poster on here that went by the username of Idiot Spotter and all he or her use to write in his posts was "you have been spotted"
I miss his input
So as not to be hypocritical or to be hypocritical depending on how you read this. I would of guessed that the "wind just blew with light fuel" but a post earlier (No 2) states the weather that day was no wind. So probably not the cause, so who knows?
CHC people been told not to talk to the media which is probably standard these days. But come on guys spill the beans for us. Please
KNKT probes helicopter crash site in Pondok Cabe | The Jakarta Post
Investigators from the National Transportation Safety Commission (KNKT) have arrived at Pondok Cabe airfield in Tangerang to investigate the helicopter crash that killed two technicians earlier Thursday.
The crash site, located in front of Pelita Air's service hangar, was cordoned off and under police guard. Journalists were not allowed to enter the area.
The bodies of the victims, Ahmad Suparja (25) and Sri Setyobudi (42) were taken to Fatmawati Hospital in South Jakarta. The pilot of the twin engine Super-Puma helicopter, Rohman Hadi (50), and a technician who was inside the chopper, HM Hardi (52), survived, but were still suffering from shock.
South Jakarta Police chief Sr. Comr. Chairul Anwar said at the crash site the police had yet to figure out the chronology of the incident.
"What we know so far is they were doing a routine maintenance check. They started up the engine and the pilot began to lift the chopper when it suddenly collapsed," Chairul told journalists, as quoted by tempointeraktif.com.
He said the helicopter's blades had sliced through the two technicians. "It's quite severe, they were cut in two," he said.
Investigators from the National Transportation Safety Commission (KNKT) have arrived at Pondok Cabe airfield in Tangerang to investigate the helicopter crash that killed two technicians earlier Thursday.
The crash site, located in front of Pelita Air's service hangar, was cordoned off and under police guard. Journalists were not allowed to enter the area.
The bodies of the victims, Ahmad Suparja (25) and Sri Setyobudi (42) were taken to Fatmawati Hospital in South Jakarta. The pilot of the twin engine Super-Puma helicopter, Rohman Hadi (50), and a technician who was inside the chopper, HM Hardi (52), survived, but were still suffering from shock.
South Jakarta Police chief Sr. Comr. Chairul Anwar said at the crash site the police had yet to figure out the chronology of the incident.
"What we know so far is they were doing a routine maintenance check. They started up the engine and the pilot began to lift the chopper when it suddenly collapsed," Chairul told journalists, as quoted by tempointeraktif.com.
He said the helicopter's blades had sliced through the two technicians. "It's quite severe, they were cut in two," he said.
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The Pelita 330J Puma I was referring to was the rollover mentioned to have occurred in Sumatra ( must have been '70 -'71... ) and was a write off.
One has to remember that the 330 was originally designed for the French Army and had to 'fit' in a C-160 Transall for transporation to 'conflict areas' ( such as Cote Ivoire... ) and the main gear location -and width- was designed in accordance with the cabin / body width of the Transall.
Whoever was with Pelita in Indonesia that time, will recall the inherent 'Goyang Madura' movement of the Puma when the rotor started to spin up.
For the records, Pelita was the first civil operator of the 330 commencing ops in late '70 - early '71. Among the various operations performed extremely well by the 330 was 'moving' heli rigs in North Sumatra whereby 2 Puma's ( and a Alouette 3 to carry the sling cables back ) were operating in excess of 11- 12 hours per day over a period of 5-7 days ( if I remember well ) without stopping the rotor / engines ( yes, 'hot refueling' was done, and change of crew at the same time ) which contributed to the -almost- 100 percent serviceability of the Puma, which shows that the more frequent you fly them, the less technical problems one has.
Those were the days......
One has to remember that the 330 was originally designed for the French Army and had to 'fit' in a C-160 Transall for transporation to 'conflict areas' ( such as Cote Ivoire... ) and the main gear location -and width- was designed in accordance with the cabin / body width of the Transall.
Whoever was with Pelita in Indonesia that time, will recall the inherent 'Goyang Madura' movement of the Puma when the rotor started to spin up.
For the records, Pelita was the first civil operator of the 330 commencing ops in late '70 - early '71. Among the various operations performed extremely well by the 330 was 'moving' heli rigs in North Sumatra whereby 2 Puma's ( and a Alouette 3 to carry the sling cables back ) were operating in excess of 11- 12 hours per day over a period of 5-7 days ( if I remember well ) without stopping the rotor / engines ( yes, 'hot refueling' was done, and change of crew at the same time ) which contributed to the -almost- 100 percent serviceability of the Puma, which shows that the more frequent you fly them, the less technical problems one has.
Those were the days......
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What did poppahymen then predict for 2010, 2009, 2008, 2007, 2006 etc..?
A true oracle in my book..
A true oracle in my book..
Now if only the CHC blokes would spill the beans
