Pilot drops in for coffee
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Pilot drops in for coffee
From the Warrnambool 'Standard' newspaper
A helicopter pilot who landed near Port Campbell faces a fine of more than $35,000 for satisfying his caffeine cravings.Port Campbell police Sergeant David Banks said a two-seater private helicopter landed near the Old Ocean Road at Sturgess Point, Port Campbell, just before 5pm Sunday.
He said the helicopter landed close to a parked camper van while other people were also walking around in the area.
The landing site was in a section of the Port Campbell National Park and the pilot had not sought permission to land. The Civil Aviation Safety Authority is also understood to be investigating the incident.
Port Campbell police interviewed the pilot on behalf of Parks Victoria at the landing site. Sergeant Banks said local residents were concerned when they saw the helicopter land that it was a Port Campbell helicopter operator who had to perform an emergency landing.
"It appeared that the pilot wanted a cup of coffee. He had to walk a couple of hundred metres and came back with a coffee and bag of chips," he said.
"CASA is contacting him about about what he's done wrong. They were more worried about him causing an accident," he said.
The Coldstream man, 39, faces a maximum fine of 300 penalty units or $35,769 for landing in a national park.
Parks Victoria Port Campbell ranger in charge Will Cox said it was an offence to land without authorisation in a national park.
We are working closely with police, it's a matter for police and we'll be talking to Port Campbell police over how far we take the matter," he said. "We're certainly not impressed with the pilot's behaviour and the message needs to get out that this sort of behaviour will not be tolerated."
Had this situation taken place anywhere else I am sure no one would give a rats! Port Campbell is a hot bed of complaint from locals about the prolific helicopter flights that frequent the coastline within the Port Campbell / 12 Apostles area.
A helicopter pilot who landed near Port Campbell faces a fine of more than $35,000 for satisfying his caffeine cravings.Port Campbell police Sergeant David Banks said a two-seater private helicopter landed near the Old Ocean Road at Sturgess Point, Port Campbell, just before 5pm Sunday.
He said the helicopter landed close to a parked camper van while other people were also walking around in the area.
The landing site was in a section of the Port Campbell National Park and the pilot had not sought permission to land. The Civil Aviation Safety Authority is also understood to be investigating the incident.
Port Campbell police interviewed the pilot on behalf of Parks Victoria at the landing site. Sergeant Banks said local residents were concerned when they saw the helicopter land that it was a Port Campbell helicopter operator who had to perform an emergency landing.
"It appeared that the pilot wanted a cup of coffee. He had to walk a couple of hundred metres and came back with a coffee and bag of chips," he said.
"CASA is contacting him about about what he's done wrong. They were more worried about him causing an accident," he said.
The Coldstream man, 39, faces a maximum fine of 300 penalty units or $35,769 for landing in a national park.
Parks Victoria Port Campbell ranger in charge Will Cox said it was an offence to land without authorisation in a national park.
We are working closely with police, it's a matter for police and we'll be talking to Port Campbell police over how far we take the matter," he said. "We're certainly not impressed with the pilot's behaviour and the message needs to get out that this sort of behaviour will not be tolerated."
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There seems to be a big difference between a PPL-Pilot and a CPL-Pilot....
The CPL-Pilot never lands for a coffee break....
He is only performing a safety landing for taking a leak, THEN having a coffee, and then taking off again......
The CPL-Pilot never lands for a coffee break....
He is only performing a safety landing for taking a leak, THEN having a coffee, and then taking off again......
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From: nocte volant
There seems to be a big difference between a PPL-Pilot and a CPL-Pilot....
The CPL-Pilot never lands for a coffee break....
He is only performing a safety landing for taking a leak, THEN having a coffee, and then taking off again......
The CPL-Pilot never lands for a coffee break....
He is only performing a safety landing for taking a leak, THEN having a coffee, and then taking off again......
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From: Stairways to heaven
I had sort of the same issue about 25 years ago when I landed on a temporarily closed airfield with a Cessna (some RC contest that happens once a year). Yes I was unlucky to nail that exact day of the year (0.27% chance) and yes I did not read the NOTAM.
However, somehow the oil pressure light had come on and I was "forced" to land at nearest suitable field.........
Nothing came of it except I got a letter from CAA asking the reason why and in the end concluded that I should take more caution. No fines and nothing else.
However, somehow the oil pressure light had come on and I was "forced" to land at nearest suitable field.........
Nothing came of it except I got a letter from CAA asking the reason why and in the end concluded that I should take more caution. No fines and nothing else.
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From: Saltsjöbaden, Sweden
Jeez...
What a bummer! Is this a Brittish/German/Swiss thing? The way this is going, we will soon see ourselves in world of twins only, all operating under about one foot of paperwork per flight and at a minimum altitude of 3000 ft. Oh, and away from anything on two legs.
(author's comment: it is my belief that in the mentioned countries, regulation and enforcement are getting too strict. Just that
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(author's comment: it is my belief that in the mentioned countries, regulation and enforcement are getting too strict. Just that
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From: After all, what’s more important than proving to someone on the internet that they’re wrong? - Manson
Had a similar circumstance in the more remote places of OZ.
Landed adjacent to the town to check on the fuel supplier. He told me it wasn't such a good idea as the local constabulary was not real keen on this sort of thing.
Relocated to the airport. 5 kms away. Local copper turns up. Have conversation over the fence. He is waiting for me to step out of the airport. I knew as well as he did that the airport is Federal and he was a State copper. Kind of let him know that.
I was in no hurry so just waited until he went away. Little nap under a tree til the re-fueler turned up then moved on.
Landed adjacent to the town to check on the fuel supplier. He told me it wasn't such a good idea as the local constabulary was not real keen on this sort of thing.
Relocated to the airport. 5 kms away. Local copper turns up. Have conversation over the fence. He is waiting for me to step out of the airport. I knew as well as he did that the airport is Federal and he was a State copper. Kind of let him know that.
I was in no hurry so just waited until he went away. Little nap under a tree til the re-fueler turned up then moved on.
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So, you can drive your big ass RV into a national park but you cannot land a helicopter?
This is only about some "authority" making money again.
I am beginning to worry about the human species.Nobody acts reasonable anymore.
Humans suck.
I know why I prefer solitude...
This is only about some "authority" making money again.
I am beginning to worry about the human species.Nobody acts reasonable anymore.
Humans suck.
I know why I prefer solitude...
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From: Gold Coast, Australia
A little background to the area and the attitude of Parks Victoria may put this into context.
Parks Victoria have always had a 'no helicopter within Parks' policy, except when it suits them for their own use of course! This has extended over the years to a number of "Fly Neighbourly" policies being put in place around tourism areas such as the 12 Apostles, to have a voluntary code of operations within certain areas. These Fly Neighbourly routes and restrictions are published in ERSA, but remain strictly voluntary with no legality for enforcement.
Therein lies the rub: Parks cannot understand that they do not own the airspace and will use every subterfuge available to have overflights 'controlled' by themselves. To land within their hallowed turf without an approval signed by the Queen Mum would be a hanging offence, and they will undoubtedly chase this one to the ultimate conclusion
I will admit to many a run in with the local Ranger down there, the most stupid was when he could not/would not accept that me flying low level 2 miles out to sea was not only outside his park boundary, but none of his business. A day later one of the 12 Apostles fell down, and in the local newspaper report he blamed my low flying for the collapse
Parks Victoria have always had a 'no helicopter within Parks' policy, except when it suits them for their own use of course! This has extended over the years to a number of "Fly Neighbourly" policies being put in place around tourism areas such as the 12 Apostles, to have a voluntary code of operations within certain areas. These Fly Neighbourly routes and restrictions are published in ERSA, but remain strictly voluntary with no legality for enforcement.
Therein lies the rub: Parks cannot understand that they do not own the airspace and will use every subterfuge available to have overflights 'controlled' by themselves. To land within their hallowed turf without an approval signed by the Queen Mum would be a hanging offence, and they will undoubtedly chase this one to the ultimate conclusion
I will admit to many a run in with the local Ranger down there, the most stupid was when he could not/would not accept that me flying low level 2 miles out to sea was not only outside his park boundary, but none of his business. A day later one of the 12 Apostles fell down, and in the local newspaper report he blamed my low flying for the collapse
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A day later one of the 12 Apostles fell down, and in the local newspaper report he blamed my low flying for the collapse 
His chip light probably came on
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A day later one of the 12 Apostles fell down, and in the local newspaper report he blamed my low flying for the collapse
"In my defence your honour, that Judas Iscariot always falls down at the sight of flashing blades regardless of distance"
"In my defence your honour, that Judas Iscariot always falls down at the sight of flashing blades regardless of distance"
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From: After all, what’s more important than proving to someone on the internet that they’re wrong? - Manson
Speaking of them Apostles - seem to remember slinging a car onto one of them with a B205 moons ago for a TV commercial. Then the day was spent with a 206 filming it.
Probably out of that same car park the camper is in! How things change!
Probably out of that same car park the camper is in! How things change!
