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Old 4th August 2018 | 20:16
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Thanks, very clear now. I was checking with a couple of friends who fly in different big companies and although they know this procedure is in the RFM, their company's checklist don't consider it. Not sure why not.
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Old 18th February 2019 | 06:41
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What is the allowable torque split in aw139?
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Old 18th February 2019 | 20:57
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What is the allowable torque split in aw139?
If you're in Tq Match, it should be within 1 or 2 % if not perfectly even. That is at 100 or 102 NR. In Idle it doesn't matter.

If you're in Tq Match and they are not matching, then there is an issue somewhere.
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Old 19th February 2019 | 02:53
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What is the allowable torque split in aw139?
Just to add: load share is performed by the EECs both at Idle and Flight. Couldn't find what's the maximum split but maintenance told me that one of the EECs failures is due to the load share function lost. If it hapens, before start you will have either maintenace white or EEC1(2) fail. Engines runing possibly EEC fail. Hope that helps.
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Old 20th February 2019 | 21:01
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What is the allowable torque split in aw139?
Maintenance Manual Ch 77-40 has your answer.
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Old 13th March 2019 | 13:10
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Originally Posted by noooby
If you're in Tq Match, it should be within 1 or 2 % if not perfectly even. That is at 100 or 102 NR. In Idle it doesn't matter.

If you're in Tq Match and they are not matching, then there is an issue somewhere.
I concur with this. I watched the TQ match recently and it always seems to stay within 1% through all power settings.
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Old 29th April 2019 | 04:33
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Originally Posted by manriman
Just to add: load share is performed by the EECs both at Idle and Flight. Couldn't find what's the maximum split but maintenance told me that one of the EECs failures is due to the load share function lost. If it hapens, before start you will have either maintenace white or EEC1(2) fail. Engines runing possibly EEC fail. Hope that helps.
it happens with me once that the Matching Symbology was not there for Tq n ITT.
Maintenance people reset both EEC and problem was resolved.
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Old 20th July 2022 | 09:19
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Originally Posted by rancid
What is the allowable torque split in aw139?
Chapter 72 Engine Maintenance Manual .... Engine Fault Isolation... Table NCFUR 2 .... Fig 127
There is no limit written but remedial action is given. In my aircraft it was solved at 1st step that is cleaning EEC plugs
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Old 8th July 2024 | 19:31
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NEST receives their

Amongst all the recent orders and deliveries of the successful AW139, in states, National Nuclear Security Administration received theirs at Joint Base Andrews as one of the aircraft will be based there and second one at the Remote Sensing lab at Nellis AFB.

https://www.energy.gov/nnsa/articles...-across-nation





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Old 9th July 2024 | 05:52
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What kind of role(s) do these fulfill? As in yes I can read the press release but are these aircraft out everyday?
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Old 10th July 2024 | 22:22
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What kind of role(s) do these fulfill?
They perform low level radiation sensing duties. Usually there will be a public press release with the rotor ops over urban areas to cut down on the 911 calls of low flying helicopters.
but are these aircraft out everyday?
They can be depending on the requirements. Both the rotor and fixed wing aircraft are on-call 24/7/365.
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Old 11th July 2024 | 10:08
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They perform low level radiation sensing duties. Usually there will be a public press release with the rotor ops over urban areas to cut down on the 911 calls of low flying helicopters.

They can be depending on the requirements. Both the rotor and fixed wing aircraft are on-call 24/7/365.
Thanks - that is quite amazing, I don't think we have anything similar in the UK - although not sure?
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Old 11th July 2024 | 16:51
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Thanks - that is quite amazing, I don't think we have anything similar in the UK - although not sure?
Your southern neighbors have:


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Old 24th July 2024 | 21:59
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Hi folks, I can't remember the reason why if you shut the master sw off while engines are still rotating during shut down one may introduce a little fuel into the exhaust system which produces a lot of white smoke.
Any help please?
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Old 25th July 2024 | 03:43
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OTTOMH - The "default" without power is for the engine to run. It requires power to the shutoff valve to stop, so if you remove power it reverts to "run" and fuel will flow.
The FADEC doesn't really do much at all during start, if the engine has fuel and ignition and you spin it with the starter it will start. The EEC only has a watchdog on the ITT and may bump the fuel flow back slightly but that is about all until idle is reached.

Pretty easy fix - leave the master on until N1 = 0%? Fairly good practice to avoid after-fires on any turbine and probably says the same in the RFM?

Turning off the master SW too early can also lead to DCU data write corruption as it uses an N1 speed to trigger the write function and of course needs power to do so.

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Old 25th July 2024 | 05:36
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The FADEC doesn't really do much at all during start
Would that be because the 139 has an EEC not a FADEC?


EEC or FADEC
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Old 25th July 2024 | 07:52
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Hi folks, I can't remember the reason why if you shut the master sw off while engines are still rotating during shut down one may introduce a little fuel into the exhaust system which produces a lot of white smoke.
Any help please?
It's to let everyone around you know that you are rushing things and not following the checklist correctly.......

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Old 25th July 2024 | 08:53
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I’ve never seen NGs read ‘below 0%’

I guess that’s ‘Italianenglish’?
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Old 25th July 2024 | 09:05
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I’ve never seen NGs read ‘below 0%’

I guess that’s ‘Italianenglish’?
Good spot - an old document so I wonder if it’s corrected in current versions?
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Old 25th July 2024 | 13:57
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Thanks guys, appreciate.
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