Expired ATPL(H) Exams

[Aucky]

Thanks a lot tank, all useful stuff

Aucky

[heliwes]

Lasors j1.6

Does Lasors 08 Para J1.7 allow not doing the resits at discretion of Head of Training at FTO ? specifically the para
" Failure to comply with Acceptance Period

If a CPL and IR are not granted within the 36 month
acceptance period then the ATPL theory credit will lapse.
Candidates will be required to re-pass all ATPL theoretical
knowledge examinations to regain ATPL theory credit.
However, it has been agreed that where a candidate
has previously passed all ATPL theoretical knowledge
examinations but were not granted a CPL/IR within the 36
month acceptance period, the amount of ATPL theoretical
knowledge instruction will be at the discretion of the Head

of Training of the Approved FTO."

[Whirlygig]

No, all that means is that the Head of Training may not require the candidate to sit the mandatory classroom element of the course. They must still, however, si all thr exams again.

Cheers

Whirls

[dmouseair]

Here is a good one for you:

UK CPL(H) converted to JAR CPL(H) when licence expired. I sat the UK papers in '94 when the ATPL was issued after a minimum requirement was met.

Missed out on UK ATPL(H) due to being short of the 20hrs night(by one hour-ish), when the JAA came in - had 3000hrs + day.

I now want to do an IR(H), but also would like the option of ATPL issue in future should I go multi-crew etc. In other words if I am going to do some exams, I might as well remove any future restrictions to a licence issue. In a for a penny in for a fortune......

I have over 4500hrs rotary, 700hrs+ twin, 500+ night now, and fly for the Police.

Question 1: Do I need to do the full JAR ATPL(H) set of exams to give me the ability to hold a frozen ATPL, and to cover me for the IR?

Question 2: Can I still gain an ATPL(H) in the future by doing the IR exams only, and of course meeting the other JAA ATPL(H) requirements?

My head hurts just thinking about this and thats before I have to resit exams I have already taken once......ho hummm

I think I know the answer........but 7 is my lucky number!

[ThomasTheTankEngine]

Hi at the moment you only need to do the 7 ir exams, and when you have a jaa cpl(h)ir, you would also have an atpl(h)ir theory credit, this is because the uk caa are still using ammendment 3 of jar fcl 2.

See LASORS important note and section g3.3

If you wait to long and the caa start using a latter ammedment of jar fcl 2, you would have to do all the atpl exams, thats if you want a cpl(h)ir with an atpl theory credit. This is because in 1994 you done the national exams and not jaa.

I would get this in writting of the CAA.

[dmouseair]

Thomas TTE, thank-you for those sweet words......

I had read that, but had heard conflicting views.

I had signed up with Bristol GS for Mod 1 ATPL(H) last year, who stated that I had to do the full set to gain JAR ATPL(H).This was due to old UK national exams not counting as being pre-JAR, and no credit was given. It was all a while ago now, and my memory is not as it should be especially after a 12hr shift!

Can anyone pm me with details of the CAPT IR(H) course, and how it differs from the likes of Atlantic.....who I also have the notes for?

I seem to be collecting training notes, the way this is going!

I should really get cracking with all this, as previous efforts have been put on the back burner for various reasons.

Regards,

DM.

[Aucky]

Quick update, thanks to all for their help on this thread, took many peoples advice and did the Bournemouth GTS brush up course with a quick 2 week cram beforehand , exams last monday, the instructors were very knowledgeable and helpful and covered much more than exams required despite the short timetable (except FMS databases which came up a few times and i'm told is not in the IR(H) syllabus, but spilled over from ATPL questions, contested either way)

No doubt CAPT is also very good but wanted to share my pleasant experience, as it's nice to see the quality of training is high and the instructors are very helpful.

Aucky