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Old 22nd Sep 2009, 22:17
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Two online newspapers have reported that the mayday was received some 40 minutes before the aircraft crashed so likely to be more to it than low RRPM.

Sincerest sympathies to the friends and families.

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Old 22nd Sep 2009, 22:53
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mayday was received some 40 minutes before the aircraft crashed
Likely to be mis-reporting; one has to wonder what they were doing still flying 40 minutes later, rather than making a PL.

Sad news.
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Old 23rd Sep 2009, 06:19
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A misinterpretation, I think.

Most reports indicate it was 40 mins after the Mayday before the crash site was located.
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Old 23rd Sep 2009, 08:19
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If you thought the TV reporter was bad, try reading the MailOnLine report for absolute garbage.
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Old 23rd Sep 2009, 08:58
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How that mail online article can pass for journalism I'll never know.

Tragic accident, sympathies to all effected.
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Old 23rd Sep 2009, 10:52
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This accident and the one in Ireland last April brings home the dangers of instructing, you always have to be on-guard for everything.
As much as instructing is a sort of 'apprenticeship' to the instructor to becoming a more qualified/experienced pilot, it cannot be treated lightly.
Everyone who has instructed will have memories of 'what could have gone wrong'.
May both occupants R.I.P
sympathies to their families

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Old 23rd Sep 2009, 11:44
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I was just about to log in to have a rant about the Mail, but I see someone has beaten me to it. It doesn't take forty minutes to fly over Blackpool, let alone Poulton.

Mind you, the local rag wasn't much better - they managed to check that a conservation officer will be going out to check on the eco damage as soon as they can.

I sometimes wonder whether PPRuNe should set up a journalists help-line to ring so they can check their anti-facts before submitting them to press.

beggars belief, doesn't it?
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Old 23rd Sep 2009, 12:53
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I was going to post that words fail me, but actually they don't. Here's a couple to look up in your dictionary:
1) Crass
2) Offensive
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Old 23rd Sep 2009, 13:29
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Crash Pair Identified

Another sad day - BBC have just released the following:
A pilot and his flying pupil who were killed when the helicopter they were in crashed into marshland in north Lancashire have been identified.

The aircraft sent a Mayday signal as it flew over Poulton-le-Fylde at about 1210 BST on Tuesday. It came down at Barnaby's Sands 40 minutes later.

Pilot Stephen Lewis, 38, from Rainhill, Merseyside, died along with Phillip Grey, 45, of Mawdesley, Lancashire.

Mr Lewis had been leading the training flight when the crash happened.

A Lancashire Police spokesman said: "We can confirm it was a training flight and the passenger was a learner."

The Mayday signal was received by Blackpool Airport's air traffic control, which alerted the emergency services.

Air accident investigators have been examining the scene of the crash, which left debris spread across the marshland.

The cause of the accident is not yet clear.
It would appear the earlier comment about 40 mins from Mayday to accident was a typo - given both comments above and the first report.

RIP, Gents.
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Old 23rd Sep 2009, 13:46
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Shocking News!

Steve was a really nice man who everybody liked.
A true gentleman, a great pilot and instructor. We will miss him very dearly.
Thoughts go out to their families.
R.I.P.
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Old 23rd Sep 2009, 14:56
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Steve? have names been released yet?
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Old 23rd Sep 2009, 15:00
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Steve? have names been released yet?
Read post 29.
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Old 23rd Sep 2009, 15:50
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Steve Lewis?

I've got a horrible, horrible feeling that Steve and SEL are one and the same. RIP Steve.


I do hope that I've got it wrong though.
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Old 23rd Sep 2009, 20:44
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unfortunately i believe steve was sel on here.

to paddy, some of us don't instruct as an apprenticeship but because we want to, and steve was very much in that camp, he was an experienced and professional aviator with several thousand hours mainly in the 3 bird, and i'm certain he fought the bl00dy thing all the way to the ground doing whatever he could to deal with whatever happened. we'll leave that up to the aaib to find

he was a truly great person who will be missed by anyone who met him in whatever capacity.
i had the luck of calling him a friend as well as the honour of working with him.
also, in the past we flew together doing some of his type ratings

he was always a professional, could always get his subject across to his students and could put anyone at ease within seconds of meeting him

he really loved the job and literally breathed helicopters and was always looking to make things happen better

i will miss the jokes appearing in my inbox and our conversations about bad 80's tv and will never again be able to assign 'his' ringtone in my phone

i didn't know his student but wish his family and of course steve's all the best in thier time of sorrow

r.i.p steve, we all will miss you
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Old 23rd Sep 2009, 21:32
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Steve Lewis

Steve Lewis bloody great guy! GUTTED.
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Old 23rd Sep 2009, 22:57
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Whilst I didn't know Stephen personally, it is terribly sad when someone that we all "knew" through Rotorheads dies when flying helicopters. If anyone here is able to provide details of the funeral arrangements when they are known, please do so.

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Old 23rd Sep 2009, 22:58
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Steve Lewis was a great instructor

Im upset today to hear this devastating news, my thoughts are with friends and family. I have been training with steve for a year, and he was an absolute delight to fly with. He had a great sense of humour and we probably spent alot of time laughing on our flights, he made every lesson interesting and fun. Ive flown in that very helicopter nearly 30 times with steve recently and its always been a pleasure. I will miss a good instructor.

What happened yet no one knows and its hard to accept, as it could have been any one of us sat by his side at this terrible moment who were currently training with him. If anyone could publish details at any point (obviously with his families consent) for where flowers or cards may be sent I would be grateful (if this information is know by anyone).

Anyway steve, i wont give up as I know you would'nt want me to and i'll do my best to pass, but shouldn't be a problem with a great teacher like you, just wont be the same as im not used to flying without listening to bad jokes. good night god bless mate.


My sympathies go out to both families.
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Old 24th Sep 2009, 08:20
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I sometimes wonder whether PPRuNe should set up a journalists help-line to ring so they can check their anti-facts before submitting them to press
You'd help them, right?

Right.
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You'd help them, right?

Right.

choppertop,

Please wind your neck in for the time being. There are currently slightly greater matters at stake than your issues with how 'we' treat journalists.
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Old 24th Sep 2009, 14:59
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BBC Northern News Wednesday Evening at 1830hrs. and 2130hrs

Used the picture and opening post from this Rotorhead Forum, as well as reading it over the TV broadcasted channel, but despite all the comment we have made in many different ways, these TV Journo's are still trying to guess what has happened, and put some sort of sensational slant with it.

Just remember all of you who post, eyes are on the Pprune, and these idiots will pick the most lurid and sensational comment made, then transmit to the great unwashed as TRUE FACT.

Be careful with posts!

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