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Old 18th Aug 2009, 16:04
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Contrary to what certain other contributers to this thread have tried to suggest (amongst other things), it has now been confirmed that, as agreed by Bond and CHC in the contract, TUPE will apply to those at Blackpool at least.
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Old 18th Aug 2009, 18:34
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Bond on the rise?

So, if Bond have taken the contract in Cork off CHC then does that mean they also are well placed to do the same with the Rescue Services Contract in Ireland?

Apparently its worth around 270 million over ten years.
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Old 18th Aug 2009, 20:53
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RE: Good positioning

No, it doesn't.
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Old 19th Aug 2009, 00:52
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Hompy's rather brief reply is accurate.
As you state, that job is worth $x over y years, meaning it has been contracted out to the current operator for that time. Now, barring any serious breaches of that contract by the operator that will void the terms as wirtten and automatically result in cancellation, the next time this job is up for grabs is at the end of the term.

THEN it will go out to re-tender and be up for grabs to whoever puts the best offer on the table. Under certain circumstances a party in a contract can withdraw early by mutual agreement, thus opening up the job for re-tender, but generally the job is secure to the contractor for the duration of the term.
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Old 19th Aug 2009, 05:19
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Thats great news for you guys!, lets just hope Cork has the same outcome .

When you say 'confirmed' you mean Bond have been in touch or its in writing ?
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Old 24th Aug 2009, 18:11
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Angry Bond in Cork

Burr Styers has it exactly right with regard to CHC Management. They are lead from the middle....for as long as competent people remain in post.

They have lost Cork, they have also definitely lost Blackpool and Perenco out of Norwich. It won't stop there but there is the question of airframe availability. Time will tell.
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Old 27th Aug 2009, 15:55
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There is no doubt that those companies that have a strong identity, are also pretty cohesive, (well put together) stable, and generally prosper. The problem with CHC is, .........its not quite sure what it is, or who's running it. The last decade has been pretty turbulent for them one way or another, and there still seems to be this air of instability throughout the organisation. This manifests itself as commercial uncertainty and a grumpy workforce.

Despite the efforts of many good people who have come, and left in frustration, CHC trundles on in spite of itself,.........and not because of itself.

There is no magic wand to wave, no pixie dust to spread around, they just need to start talking from the head........ and not the heart.

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Old 27th Aug 2009, 16:15
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Perhaps they should be putting you in to get CHC on the right track along with the management consultants. You seem to have it all worked out.
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Old 27th Aug 2009, 16:16
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Not quite all worked out Governor.

CHC management do not have a heart..........

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Old 27th Aug 2009, 18:16
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My comments are nothing more than a retrospective view - based on 20/20 hindsight. Been There, done that, doing something else.

I genuinely wish them all the best.

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Old 27th Aug 2009, 18:33
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You show me a company that does'nt have at least one bad manager and you win a banana !! or a enstrom
CHC may have more then there fair share at the moment, but what goes around' comes around'
'''Watch this space'''
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Old 27th Aug 2009, 20:51
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No heart? Where's Dorothy when you need her.

I'm off to see the Wizard.....
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Old 22nd Sep 2009, 13:47
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Anyone applied for a job in Cork? Am curious what Bond are offering captains and co-pilots salary wise. Please email or PM me if you don't want to post here.

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Old 1st Oct 2009, 22:11
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I just found out the starting salaries being offered to pilots in Cork from Bond Air Services. It's an absolute pittance. A disgrace really and a major step backwards for pilot's as a whole. I just hope their cost cutting doesn't affect safety.
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Old 2nd Oct 2009, 08:13
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Anyone applied for a job in Cork?
Is there a need for additional Pilots? Will some of the current workforce move to other bases? The grapevine has been very quiet in my neck of the woods!
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Old 4th Oct 2009, 20:10
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Word on the street is P2 salaries starting in and around 40,000 euro, new guys (not current CHC pilots) to fill the slots.
P1 salaries starting around 60,000 euro, one of the positions possibly filled by a contributer to this thread, not me by the way. Stand to be corrected.
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Old 9th Oct 2009, 19:35
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32k for co-pilots and 68k for captains is what I've been told. Captain rates are comparable (I think) to onshore rates in the UK, but from what I hear, Ireland is a much more expensive place to live.

Co-pilots are going to be struggling, especially if they have a family.
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Old 15th Oct 2009, 21:28
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Hi guys its actually 38k euro for the co-pilots. Havent heard bout the captains pay yet.
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Old 16th Oct 2009, 15:55
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Hi I also heard 32 for co and 68 for capt, but great if they get more.
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Old 23rd Dec 2009, 16:36
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So, what's the latest on this one. Isn't it suppose to be kicking off Jan 1st.
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