Incident at Swansea airport....
Jeeeesus, is this a Pilot site or a Police one? Don't get me wrong the cops do a good job but best to leave the pilot stuff to pilots and the police stuff to.... well you blokes who joined the Police and the AIRCRAFT (not criminal investigations) to the fellas who do that sort of stuff.
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During incidents where people are seriously injured or may have serious injuries, it is normal practice for paramedics to cut clothing from patients in order to examine them without causing further injuries. The clothing is usually discarded by the paramedics and because it is property belonging to someone then it will be recovered by the police for safe keeping, usually to be either returned or dispossed off with the owners permission.
The report on the BBC website leads me to believe that the Police officers that attended the scene were able to communicate with the pilot and get a good idea of the cause of the incident which would then have been passed onto AAIB who made the decision to await a paper report from the pilot.
The 1st role of a Police officer is the protection of Life, all officers receive first aid training, and that would have been their primary concern.
There are two sides to every story and it is easy for someone who doesn't understand what they are seeing (or what they have been told) to interpret it differently to those that understand what is occuring.
I see alot of postings on this forum criticizing the Press for using rhumors on this site and jumping to conclusions etc, however that appears to be exactly what forum members are doing on this thread.
Hoepfully this will help some of those slating the Police understand their role better, there does seem to be a heavy dose of CSI imagination in some of the postings.
As far as the cause of the crash, you'll be able to read all about it in the AAIB report.
keep safe.
The report on the BBC website leads me to believe that the Police officers that attended the scene were able to communicate with the pilot and get a good idea of the cause of the incident which would then have been passed onto AAIB who made the decision to await a paper report from the pilot.
The 1st role of a Police officer is the protection of Life, all officers receive first aid training, and that would have been their primary concern.
There are two sides to every story and it is easy for someone who doesn't understand what they are seeing (or what they have been told) to interpret it differently to those that understand what is occuring.
I see alot of postings on this forum criticizing the Press for using rhumors on this site and jumping to conclusions etc, however that appears to be exactly what forum members are doing on this thread.
Hoepfully this will help some of those slating the Police understand their role better, there does seem to be a heavy dose of CSI imagination in some of the postings.
As far as the cause of the crash, you'll be able to read all about it in the AAIB report.
keep safe.
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... but does anybody have any gossip or speculation about why the rotor hit the ground?
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Where had the chopper come from?
Cops may have had a report of someone firing a gun from a chopper ,or it had been suspected of doing an english channel pickup of drugs from a boat.Time will tell
Cops may have had a report of someone firing a gun from a chopper ,or it had been suspected of doing an english channel pickup of drugs from a boat.Time will tell
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It is SOP for paramedics (in heles or otherwise) at serious injury incidents to cut the clothing off patients. This is done to make sure that no injuries are missed. Because the clothes still belong to someone, the police normally take them from scene.
In those cases, the clothing is not "seized" by the police, but retained to allow them to be returned to the rightful owner idc. Usually, the clothing has no value, but small items such as mobiles are often left in them, and are requested at a later date.
At occurrences with aircraft the police have a dual responsibility with the AAIB (and the CAA a little bit). Whether for their own purposes or that of others preservatipn of evidence is key. The AAIB issues emergency services with standing instructions to help them preserve the scene. Like anyone having to respond on scene, the PCs would need to second guess what the subsequent investigators might want to do.
I detect the possibility of some conspiracy theorists over-emphasising he dark side, when we may simply have a minor cock-up at worst.
In those cases, the clothing is not "seized" by the police, but retained to allow them to be returned to the rightful owner idc. Usually, the clothing has no value, but small items such as mobiles are often left in them, and are requested at a later date.
At occurrences with aircraft the police have a dual responsibility with the AAIB (and the CAA a little bit). Whether for their own purposes or that of others preservatipn of evidence is key. The AAIB issues emergency services with standing instructions to help them preserve the scene. Like anyone having to respond on scene, the PCs would need to second guess what the subsequent investigators might want to do.
I detect the possibility of some conspiracy theorists over-emphasising he dark side, when we may simply have a minor cock-up at worst.
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The helicopter had come from the hangar!!!!!!! it was pushed from the hangar a few minutes before the accident,it was pre flight checked then attempted to take off It was not coming in to land. This was obviously an accident on take off!!
Surely the police would or could have been told that by ATC.!!!!!
Surely the police would or could have been told that by ATC.!!!!!
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Thats exactly where it came from, the hangar. twenty minutes was spent carrying out the preflight checks. This was a total and absolute overrection by the police who were being fired up by the air ground operator 
referring to the site as a "crime scene."This situation has occured before when a pilot walked into the propellor of a stationary aircraft and had a slight cut to his head.
This was also called a crime scene!!!!!!
You could'nt write a better script!!!!!!
referring to the site as a "crime scene."This situation has occured before when a pilot walked into the propellor of a stationary aircraft and had a slight cut to his head.This was also called a crime scene!!!!!!You could'nt write a better script!!!!!!
