Police ASU pilot and observer wings.
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Our flying suits have silver bars sewn in to the epaulets 
Not good enough for some though - They wear the gold bars on top just to be sure 
Can anyone beat wearing 16 bars to work 
Not good enough for some though - They wear the gold bars on top just to be sure Can anyone beat wearing 16 bars to work
Yes...there used to be a TRE with Bristow Sumburgh in the 1980s who wore the full monty - shirt, jacket and mac, all with bars making 24 in all. And cap with all the gubbins. He was known as Mahatma Coat.
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Badges?! Badges?!! We don't need no stinking badges!!!
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"why should pilots wear wings anymore than observers should"
I always thought "pilot" wings were just that, they simply meant you are the pilot.... you know, can fly the aircraft?
"Earned it" Yeah, you probably have if you have a fair bit of experience. The observer has not. He is part of the team, but not a pilot. It's not elitist. Does an Ambo put Dr in front of his name?
I have wings on the name tag on my flight suit, saves the medical guys on the ground from getting blank stares from me when they mistake me for a paramedic...
I always thought "pilot" wings were just that, they simply meant you are the pilot.... you know, can fly the aircraft?
"Earned it" Yeah, you probably have if you have a fair bit of experience. The observer has not. He is part of the team, but not a pilot. It's not elitist. Does an Ambo put Dr in front of his name?
I have wings on the name tag on my flight suit, saves the medical guys on the ground from getting blank stares from me when they mistake me for a paramedic...
I'm not a Police pilot. I don't wear wings or bars, people normally know I'm the pilot due to me sitting in the front right hand seat wiggling the sticks around and complaining about the weather
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Thank god the pilots the police employ are well above average.
Something wrong with the training I think.
multi tasking that would make the average bobby or pilot freeze.
it can take many more months of flying before they can be considered as proficient
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Nowt wrong with training, How many jobs do you know, that have a training regime that turns out trainees that are at their maximum potential on day one ?
And yes the pilots are also pretty damn good.
Nowt wrong with training, How many jobs do you know, that have a training regime that turns out trainees that are at their maximum potential on day one ?
And yes the pilots are also pretty damn good.
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I think wearing wings and rank badges is the stuff of the very young and the very bold, either will do.
As we tend to get older these things tend not to matter so much, experience is not the issue, its more a kind of malaise, getting the flying suit out of the washing machine and realising that the rank slides were left on, now all crumpled, one day you wake up and you just can't be arsed to either iron them flat again and eventually sliding them over the eppauleetes that are reaally too wide for the sliudes (why is that) is just too much effort.
No this has nothing to do with "I am so experienced now I do not need such trinkets" its just the slow, enevitable, bone crunching weariness of what used to be fun.........not being important any more.
That is exactly why God invented Golf. You see standing on the first tee, sun on your back, shiny new titliest on the tee peg and.....blah....blah....blah....blah yawn...bollocks. too much effort.
I used to like a nice unifrom, crisp white shirt, jet black strides, moustache like a privet hedge, damn we looked so fine.
Nothing ever, ever stays the same.
Its age, not expereince and I would dearly swap a box full of pro V 1s just to be able to summon up that amazing feeling of pride that I used to have for my wings and my eppaulettes.
Lets be honest guys, we are past our best.
So please do not knock those who still have their pride in their wings and ranks slides, we were there once and all of us would go back tomorrow if given half a chance.
Let them have wings I say as we are past the need. Everything changes!!!
I've depressed myself now so I am off to bed!!!!
As we tend to get older these things tend not to matter so much, experience is not the issue, its more a kind of malaise, getting the flying suit out of the washing machine and realising that the rank slides were left on, now all crumpled, one day you wake up and you just can't be arsed to either iron them flat again and eventually sliding them over the eppauleetes that are reaally too wide for the sliudes (why is that) is just too much effort.
No this has nothing to do with "I am so experienced now I do not need such trinkets" its just the slow, enevitable, bone crunching weariness of what used to be fun.........not being important any more.
That is exactly why God invented Golf. You see standing on the first tee, sun on your back, shiny new titliest on the tee peg and.....blah....blah....blah....blah yawn...bollocks. too much effort.
I used to like a nice unifrom, crisp white shirt, jet black strides, moustache like a privet hedge, damn we looked so fine.
Nothing ever, ever stays the same.
Its age, not expereince and I would dearly swap a box full of pro V 1s just to be able to summon up that amazing feeling of pride that I used to have for my wings and my eppaulettes.
Lets be honest guys, we are past our best.
So please do not knock those who still have their pride in their wings and ranks slides, we were there once and all of us would go back tomorrow if given half a chance.
Let them have wings I say as we are past the need. Everything changes!!!
I've depressed myself now so I am off to bed!!!!
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Oh dear oh dear, DB.....I have just read your last post and feel mildly disconcerted that you do seem to be in far worse a state then you consider me to be.
I'm neither very young and no long find the urgency to be bold, I agree with your reflection.
It might be malaise in your case old chap but certainly not mine. As I said before, I think there might be a problem.
Best Wishes
Oh I do hope that your 'hurling' didn't damage the P45 that was screwed up and carelessly lobbed towards file 13.
Mr A Agincourt
I am sorry mate that last post of yours just made me hurl into my waste bucket.
Sad Sad Sad man.
I am sorry mate that last post of yours just made me hurl into my waste bucket.
Sad Sad Sad man.
I think wearing wings and rank badges is the stuff of the very young and the very bold, either will do.
As we tend to get older these things tend not to matter so much,
As we tend to get older these things tend not to matter so much,
its more a kind of malaise, getting the flying suit out of the washing machine and realising that the rank slides were left on, now all crumpled, one day you wake up and you just can't be arsed to either iron them flat again and eventually sliding them over the eppauleetes that are reaally too wide for the sliudes (why is that) is just too much effort.
Best Wishes
Oh I do hope that your 'hurling' didn't damage the P45 that was screwed up and carelessly lobbed towards file 13.
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in 8+ plus years of being an observer in a police unit, i can say that most of the people bothered about insignia are either:
a) ex RAF
b) bit of a uniform geek
c) still a bit shiny and new to the job
occasionaly one gets an individual who is afflicted with all three problems...
Personally: Couldnt give a toss, I would be happy if my flying gear just said "POLICE" on it, 'cos thats what I am..
The only measure im interested in is how many prisoners we get.
As for "Earning" anything Big Mike..? well that could get into a nice big bun fight....
a) ex RAF
b) bit of a uniform geek
c) still a bit shiny and new to the job
occasionaly one gets an individual who is afflicted with all three problems...
Personally: Couldnt give a toss, I would be happy if my flying gear just said "POLICE" on it, 'cos thats what I am..
The only measure im interested in is how many prisoners we get.
As for "Earning" anything Big Mike..? well that could get into a nice big bun fight....
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I worked as an ASU Pilot up and down the Country in the Early 90s. Having seen the kind of sh1te the average Bobby has to put up with it no doubt in mind that the Bobbies/Observers have earned the "Right" to wear insignia OF ANY KIND Keep up the good work boys (Being nice just in case you catch me speeding - again).
Its is a bit of British thing "I don't feel the need to wear badges cos I am already a legend in my own lunchtime" kind of attitude.
I like badges, especially ones I have earned, I Joined the Boy Scouts and worked like a mo-fo to get as many badges on my arm as I could. Why! Cos I thought that went I went to Intercamp the Girl Guides in the tents next door would ignore that fact that I was a spotty geek and shag me sensless cos I was a Hero - must be look at all my badges.
Here I am nearly 40 years later I am not really sure if anything has changed. I think the motivation is the same only the wife will not let out much so there does not seem much point anymore.......................
The right to wear wings in my view extends to ALL aviators. It does not matter whether you drive, sit in the front/back working the FLIR, or wear a tight skirt and high heels serving drinks.
Wings say one thing - I commit aviation for a living and I am proud of it!!!
I worked as an ASU Pilot up and down the Country in the Early 90s. Having seen the kind of sh1te the average Bobby has to put up with it no doubt in mind that the Bobbies/Observers have earned the "Right" to wear insignia OF ANY KIND Keep up the good work boys (Being nice just in case you catch me speeding - again).
Its is a bit of British thing "I don't feel the need to wear badges cos I am already a legend in my own lunchtime" kind of attitude.
I like badges, especially ones I have earned, I Joined the Boy Scouts and worked like a mo-fo to get as many badges on my arm as I could. Why! Cos I thought that went I went to Intercamp the Girl Guides in the tents next door would ignore that fact that I was a spotty geek and shag me sensless cos I was a Hero - must be look at all my badges.
Here I am nearly 40 years later I am not really sure if anything has changed. I think the motivation is the same only the wife will not let out much so there does not seem much point anymore.......................
The right to wear wings in my view extends to ALL aviators. It does not matter whether you drive, sit in the front/back working the FLIR, or wear a tight skirt and high heels serving drinks.
Wings say one thing - I commit aviation for a living and I am proud of it!!!
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Gold bars...
Down under we have another helicopter forum that will remain anon.
Birthed on that forum is a cartoonist calling himself Heli-man.
There was a similar thread on gold bars on that anon web site and this cartoon was posted. I'm hoping the mods leave it due to humour.
Of course GOD and HIP are user names and were relevant...
Many thanks to Heli-man for allowing me to post his pic.
I'm trying to get him to post here guys.
Birthed on that forum is a cartoonist calling himself Heli-man.
There was a similar thread on gold bars on that anon web site and this cartoon was posted. I'm hoping the mods leave it due to humour.
Of course GOD and HIP are user names and were relevant...
Many thanks to Heli-man for allowing me to post his pic.
I'm trying to get him to post here guys.
