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Old 31st Mar 2008, 23:34
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I need an Enstrom engineer - Lancashire.

My current engineer has retired - no, nothing to do with the other thread on costs. We have been happy together but the time has come. He has given me back the books and I need to find a new engineer.

I'm based in Lancashire and am aware of a couple. Steve P-R but he's in the Midlands which is a bit far and Tom Kirk who I hear is extremely busy and again not as close as my old one. Another name I have heard is Paul Harbottle(?) but I dont know him. Any recommendations gratefully received.

Thanks in advance.

Phil Price. Enstrom G-BDKD.
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Well Tom Kirk now trades as TK Helicopter Services Ltd and while we are busy we now have three engineers and are getting through our work in a timely fashion. If you have any queries please call us oin 01244 880096.
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paul harbottle is in yorkshire not lancashire if you cant find his details i will ask for you send a pm

i know steve pr travels around the place and is one of the most experianced enstrom engineers in the uk why not call him as well

Glen burley in yorkshire also has experience on enstroms
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G-BDKD

Hallo Phil,

Just nice to see G-BDKD is still flying. Not many of the early 28s left. Yours was the first with the new 'vertical' instrument panel I seem to recall.

I sold it new in 1974 to the one time Mini Saloon race driver, Nick Cole. He based it at Lydd in those days.

Couldn't recommend SPR or Tom Kirk more ... their knowledge of the Enstrom marque is unrivalled - and the Enstrom does need type knowledge in shed loads.

Good wishes to all,


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Hi Dennis,
Nothing wrong with the old memory! Last time I checked there were about half a dozen 28As left flying in the UK.
Here's Kilo Delta's panel-no wood effect fablon anymore.
I'm getting lots of nice things back about all the Enstrom guys.
Thanks everyone.

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Oh, By the way, the little black placard at the top of the panel warns to switch the beacons off when entering cloud to avoid disorientation.

I'll check the exact wording later.

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there is a new jar 145 maintenance facility about to open at barton might be worth a call. just what M/cr has been waiting for
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Hia.
I will let Paul know you are in need of assistance. (I work with him from time to time)
I can provide avionics assistance if required. I am a freelance Avionics Licneced Engineer & Consultant. CAA LAME BCAR Cat R & X. Type Rating Para 12.2., 12.3 & 15. Also B2 & B1 with Group Type Ratings.
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Old 28th Sep 2008, 15:37
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Enstrom Engineer

Giving consideration to purchasing an Enstrom F28 or Shark model and would appreciate any info on engineers in the UK with particular experience on type for a pre purchase check.

Many thanks in anticipation.
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Dennis Kenyon...not an engineer..but he sure knows his Enstrom 'onions'...where in the country are you ?

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Tom Kirk - T K Helicopters, Sealand, Chester 01244 880096
Fast Helicopters - , Shoreham, 01273 465389
Rotorspan, Droitwich 01905 774831

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Thumbs down Enstrom Engineer

Think about your decision very carefully. You will probably have to hire a full time engineer if you opt for the Enstrom. I used to work for an Enstrom dealer in the States as a mechanic. Job security!
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Old 28th Sep 2008, 22:22
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Steve Payne-Roberts at Rugby specialises in Enstroms, good engineer & reasonably priced.

Think about your decision very carefully. You will probably have to hire a full time engineer if you opt for the Enstrom. I used to work for an Enstrom dealer in the States as a mechanic. Job security!
I have had 2 Enstroms and found them reliable & very reasonable to maintain & operate, why do people give such bad press to them all the time?
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Old 29th Sep 2008, 15:06
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I purchased a 28C earlier this year. During my search I looked at H300's, Brantlys, BH47 and Robinsons. The Enstrom was the only piston helicopter that makes sense for the private owner. The factory can be a little quirky to deal with at times, but which helicopter company isn't. First of all, there are only 12 life limited parts in the machine and if you do a couple of mods, the number drops to 9. Next, since 1975 there have been only 375 accidents here in the US that involve Enstroms. Of that only 32 fatals. And these are broken down into the following groups:

Wire Strikes 4
Fuel (running out of) 4
T/R Strike 1
CFIT 6
Inadvertent IFR 4
Midair 1
MX 5
(most common was improperly maintained mags. Also 1 non-approved part)
Stupid pilot 7
(not properly conducting auto rotations most common also student pilots conducting operations not approved for)

I have been very happy with my machine so far. And before you say that the Enstrom is all I know, I learned in the H300, and have flown the BH47, R44, AS350 and BH212.
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Earlier this year I went through the process of selecting a light helicopter to buy, checking out and investigating all the usual candidates.

In the end I did not buy an Enstrom, but I was very impressed. They appear to be well engineered, safe, nice handling and good value. And the enquiries I made at the factory were all dealt with reassuringly.

Certainly, if I wanted a turbine, I'd be very keen on the 480B.

Of course, access to relable servicing is paramount.
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Old 29th Sep 2008, 22:25
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Can thouroughly recommend Tom Kirk, he looks after my 280UK
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Old 30th Sep 2008, 08:18
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i have had a 28A,28c 280f ,280fx and 2 x480s in the uk i found them to be good reliable ships

in the uk you have with experience on enstroms

steve patne roberts
eastern atlantic helicopters [enstrom dealer uk]
simon gibson [ex eastern atlantic]
rotor span
tom kirk

not in any order but i used steve payne and eastern atlantic

in the uk there has never been a fatal in a enstrom ever

and i am sure denis k may have other engineers
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Guys,

Thank you very much for all your advice,just goes to prove what I have thought for a long time now,that the Rotorheads forum is peopled by the nicest and most helpful group of aviators on the whole of PPRune.

Thank you again.
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Enstrom Engineer In The North

Hi guys and gals, can anyone advise me of an Enstrom engineer in Scotland or the North of England. Many thanks.
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Try Hugh Sutherland (PDG) at Kintore 01467-633040.
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