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212 accident offshore Dubai

Old 6th Sep 2010, 04:31
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But probably one loss per 100k hours.

Pretty low spec 212s too. No CV/FDR, HUMS etc.
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Old 6th Sep 2010, 04:33
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I also like the 212 as a basic VFR platform, but without an autopilot at night offshore?

I agree with you on the S76 though. I used to operate the "A" model on the North Sea and the distorted glass on the side windows, steamed up for good measure, was a disaster waiting to happen

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Old 6th Sep 2010, 14:35
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As it happens, all the 212s at Aerogulf have either a SCAS or a Sperry or Bell autopilot, except perhaps LX, but that's not used at night anyway. Night flying is done with 2 pilots as well, and the machines are fully IFR equipped - luxury!

Not sure that a machine with no CVR and FDR is necessarily low spec in view of the above.

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Old 27th Sep 2010, 13:10
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anniversary of crash

For some reason i stumbled onto this thread today and felt compelled to join up just to post this letter. I was involved in the firefighting and aftermath of the crash that night, and it never leaves your mind fully.There is never a day goes by that in some small way reminds you of that time.The rig crews performed bravely , with decks full of jet fuel, burning wreckage, gas bottles, ammunition for well perforation in proximity and huge diesel tanks directly underneath the main fire. I want to say , that without the need for instruction every body that we could get was retreived and treated with respect and compassion, i didnt know the religions of the dead or gender, age or colour ....it didnt matter, each received a prayer in the hope that they passed on fully.The tail rotor was hanging over one person , and the gearbox had taken another....but with no thought of risk to themselves , a few crew members removed the gearbox, and worked under the rotor because they felt it was respectful and the right thing to do ....we all thought that. The way the situation was handled in the cold daylight afterwards by some authourities was...shamefull and sickening., The end result is , 2years on and for those that care, it could of been yesterday.

may god make them whole again
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Old 28th Sep 2010, 02:45
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Quote "The way the situation was handled in the cold daylight afterwards by some authourities was...shamefull and sickening".

Im in total agreement, Im just surprised the report made it into print at all.
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Old 28th Sep 2010, 03:31
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Thank you for that a-m!

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Old 18th May 2020, 07:30
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A kind gesture for Mr. Luis Lovera's older son

Greetings! Excuse me, I'm really hoping that someone would read this. I know it's been a very long time, let me introduce myself, my name is Gabriel Duran. Right now I'm 21 years old, and I am studying in Simón Bolívar University of Venezuela. Same University as Mr. Luis Lovera's older son, Luis Miguel Lovera. I met him there about 2 years ago. Someday, coming back home from college, He told me that when he was a child, he used to live in Dubai because his father used to work there as a pilot, and then he told me about his father's tragic history. So, right now, he is living here in Venezuela with his mom and his 2 younger siblings. He told me that I was the first person at college that he told that. It's easily the most heart-touching story I've ever heard from a close friend... enough to make anyone cry. Of course I believed him, but I was definitely not going to ask him for more details about it, so I had to search by myself in the internet for some information. So... 2 years have passed, and this is the second time I've read this forum, and I am still completely shocked. In fact, Luis Miguel knows about this forum too, but didn't want to talk much about it, but he is very thankful for all your kind messages. The thing is that we both know that there might be people here that maybe have known or worked with Mr. Lovera, or even been friends with him.

Well, it's well known that living in the recent years in Venezuela has not been easy, and for Mr. Lovera's family, must have been emotionally and economically much harder. So, I must say that Luis is my best friend, he is one of the kindest, respectful and noble person I've ever known, and I am really happy and grateful to have a friend like him. Now he is a 25-year-old grown man, he is studying Mechanical Engineering Technology. Also, he became a Volunteer Firefighter of the university. At this moment, he has finished all his career subjects. Of course I am so, so much proud of him. Right now, he is on the industry internship program, If everything would have continued normally, he would have 3 weeks left to finish the internships, and around September, he should be in his graduation ceremony. but, due to the recent pandemic for COVID-19, everything stopped for the moment.

So, I think I got a nice idea. With all the respect in the world, with the respect that I have for Luis Miguel and with the respect for his father's memory, I would like to ask you, the people who used to know Mr. Luis, for a kind of favor to make a kind gesture for his son. I know that maybe we all are going through hard times, so I'm just going to ask you for what your heart says. Maybe some words, maybe a dedicatory, maybe a story or a picture of his father, maybe a gift, I mean any kind of gesture would be so much appreciated. As a matter of fact, Luis Miguel have told me that his father was the person he have trusted and loved the most. So when graduation day comes, I'll show him all your support, so he somehow feels that his father's love and pride are present. I don't know, I just feel it that way, please let me know what you think.

At this time, I don't have a photo of Mr. Luis. But I know that those of you who used to know him will immediately recognize that Luis Miguel is his son when you see him. I will put his social networks profiles in this post. Thank you very much for your time if you read all this. I will post the graduation date when I know it. Please let me know what you think about all this and if you'd like to contact me I will leave my social networks:

Facebook: GaboEduarDuran
Twitter.com: GaboEduarDuran
Instagram: gaboeduarduran

And Of course, Luis Miguel's profiles:

Facebook: Luismig.lovera
Instagram: luismig12

... May the Lord always bless Mr. Luis Lovera and his family.
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