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Don't believe the Hype!
Integrity's experience is very diferent to my own: I've found management to be particulary good, and the company very accommodating (and no, I'm not HA management!).
WRT the 139 positions, poor communications with applicants was probably due to a combination of LOTS of applicants (over 150 for co-pilot), one HR manager who had trouble keeping up with the workload, and workers on Perth Airport digging up a telecommunications cable that resulted in HA losing phones and internet for about 3 weeks. A lot of applicants were well in excess of minimums (I believe somewhere between 6-18 ex CHC Nigeria(?) AW139 qualified pilots applied, but don't quote me), and typical co-pilot applicants held ATPLs and well in excess of the 500 hours minimum. Accordingly successful applicants needed "a tick in every box": they were minimum equirements afterall, and given the quantity and quality of applicants I don't think it unrealistic that applications not meeting the minimums weren't processed. I agree getting information from the company in August/September was extremely difficult, but they were powerless to get the phonelines back any quicker (deemed a low priority by Telstra as they weren't an RPT operator). Mobiles were on, but you had to have a means to get the number. I do agree that not communicating with all applicants to advise them ASAP as to their competitiveness is a bit poor, but I think the company was swamped with the number of applicants and then hamstrung when they lost comms. Not an excuse, but more to the story than most appreciate.
Anyone out there who was/is considering applying to HA in the future should not be put off by Integrity's comments: his experiences are obviously very different to mine, and I couldn't recommend the company highly enough. Typically everyones experience with an employer are different, and I doubt there's an operator that hasn't had negative comments made about them at some stage on this forum.
Flapbak
WRT the 139 positions, poor communications with applicants was probably due to a combination of LOTS of applicants (over 150 for co-pilot), one HR manager who had trouble keeping up with the workload, and workers on Perth Airport digging up a telecommunications cable that resulted in HA losing phones and internet for about 3 weeks. A lot of applicants were well in excess of minimums (I believe somewhere between 6-18 ex CHC Nigeria(?) AW139 qualified pilots applied, but don't quote me), and typical co-pilot applicants held ATPLs and well in excess of the 500 hours minimum. Accordingly successful applicants needed "a tick in every box": they were minimum equirements afterall, and given the quantity and quality of applicants I don't think it unrealistic that applications not meeting the minimums weren't processed. I agree getting information from the company in August/September was extremely difficult, but they were powerless to get the phonelines back any quicker (deemed a low priority by Telstra as they weren't an RPT operator). Mobiles were on, but you had to have a means to get the number. I do agree that not communicating with all applicants to advise them ASAP as to their competitiveness is a bit poor, but I think the company was swamped with the number of applicants and then hamstrung when they lost comms. Not an excuse, but more to the story than most appreciate.
Anyone out there who was/is considering applying to HA in the future should not be put off by Integrity's comments: his experiences are obviously very different to mine, and I couldn't recommend the company highly enough. Typically everyones experience with an employer are different, and I doubt there's an operator that hasn't had negative comments made about them at some stage on this forum.
Flapbak
Starkly variant observations from differing sides of the fence. Interesting to note however, given reports that there were so many applicants with a tick in every box, that at least one applicant was hired as a Captain who didn't have any AW139 or offshore time (and he's off to the sim to get the endorsement). But good luck to youz all, hope you'll find experiences similar to flapbak.
ZK- registered HNZ AW139 through Jeddah today on delivery.
No crew about when we left so did not know if it was for NZ or Aus
Looks very nice for you guys when you get it.
No crew about when we left so did not know if it was for NZ or Aus
Looks very nice for you guys when you get it.
Flapbak,
Dunno anything about HA but your numbers are questionable
(6-18 AW139 drivers from CHC Nigeria). CHC only has 2 AW139's in Nigeria with mixed local and expat crews, so I doubt there are even 6 expats total who are qualified on the machine and AFAIK none of them are Aussies or Kiwis. I would therefore be very surprised if any of the pilots recruited by HA were 139 pilots from CHC Nigeria.
Dunno anything about HA but your numbers are questionable
(6-18 AW139 drivers from CHC Nigeria). CHC only has 2 AW139's in Nigeria with mixed local and expat crews, so I doubt there are even 6 expats total who are qualified on the machine and AFAIK none of them are Aussies or Kiwis. I would therefore be very surprised if any of the pilots recruited by HA were 139 pilots from CHC Nigeria.
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Mr Flapback
Man your comments about highly recommending a company you supposedly know nothing about says you either work there as management, or you have no idea at all about what is going on there.
Top end pilots are not supposed to walk away from an interview being made to feel like they are in a used car lot dealing with people trying to pull the wool over their eyes.
Remember, where there's smoke..............
Ice
Man your comments about highly recommending a company you supposedly know nothing about says you either work there as management, or you have no idea at all about what is going on there.
Top end pilots are not supposed to walk away from an interview being made to feel like they are in a used car lot dealing with people trying to pull the wool over their eyes.
Remember, where there's smoke..............
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Mark Six-
CHC Nigeria has as of about a month ago (at least) the following qualified expats in the 139 (there are 3 machines, not 2). These are just off the top of my head and the amount of time in type varies widely from just above zero to several hundred hours. All, without exception, are 5000+ hour pilots.
1 Aussie
1 Kiwi
1 Austrian
2 Canadians
1 American
1 German
2 Portuguese
1 French
1 Malaysian
1 Indian
1 Namibian
One American who is still with CHC has left Nigeria.
And of course, there are a similar number of Nigerian pilots in the 139.
CHC Nigeria has as of about a month ago (at least) the following qualified expats in the 139 (there are 3 machines, not 2). These are just off the top of my head and the amount of time in type varies widely from just above zero to several hundred hours. All, without exception, are 5000+ hour pilots.
1 Aussie
1 Kiwi
1 Austrian
2 Canadians
1 American
1 German
2 Portuguese
1 French
1 Malaysian
1 Indian
1 Namibian
One American who is still with CHC has left Nigeria.
And of course, there are a similar number of Nigerian pilots in the 139.
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This thread has certainly attracted polarized view of the recruiting process for this contract. I would be interested to know how many of the statements expressed here both +ve and -ve are from those who attended an interview and not " I have this mate who told me".
As one of the "high end" applicants (9000+ hours and all the ticks in the box) and who has been offered and accepted a position I can again only give my experience during the interview and subsequently.
I was more than happy with the interview and the interviewers were courteous, honest and went so far as to ask me what MY goals and ambitions were with HNZ. Whether or not they respond to those over the coming years remains to be seen but at no time did I feel like a used car salesman was bending me over the table.
I will certainly agree that their communication during the last three months has been sparse and sporadic but whenever I have contacted them with a question I have received a quick response.
I am looking forward to working for them and I hope that my initial impressions are validated.
rotorheadcase
As one of the "high end" applicants (9000+ hours and all the ticks in the box) and who has been offered and accepted a position I can again only give my experience during the interview and subsequently.
I was more than happy with the interview and the interviewers were courteous, honest and went so far as to ask me what MY goals and ambitions were with HNZ. Whether or not they respond to those over the coming years remains to be seen but at no time did I feel like a used car salesman was bending me over the table.
I will certainly agree that their communication during the last three months has been sparse and sporadic but whenever I have contacted them with a question I have received a quick response.
I am looking forward to working for them and I hope that my initial impressions are validated.
rotorheadcase
tribal, as I said, prior assertions that everyone who was hired had a tick in every box isn't quite the whole truth. Will be interesting to see if that appointment gets past the client's aviation advisors, bearing in mind that offshore experience is stated as requirement (500 hours minimum wasn't it??)
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139 back to Europe
Apparently there was trouble getting clearance in Pakistan/India and it was decided it would be better to ship it to Perth from Belgium.
I did hear today that one candidate for WA has been eliminated due to no offshore experience. Think they would sort that out before the interviews...good luck to HA...
I did hear today that one candidate for WA has been eliminated due to no offshore experience. Think they would sort that out before the interviews...good luck to HA...
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139 back to europe - will they meet the start date???
With the aircraft now being shipped from Belgium, will the HNZ(A) be in a position to meet the contracted commencement date as I understand there are still an number of pilots yet to be type rated? I assume the cancelled appointment of a pilot will only compound this issue.
Was that cancelled appointment the above named pilot who had no offshore time?
Was that cancelled appointment the above named pilot who had no offshore time?
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Two AW139s have arrived at Perth Airport - seen there on 13 January 2009:
VH-NZF (c/n 31156) registered to Helicopters NZ Pty Ltd on 06 Jan 2009. (Less than a week old).
ZK-HUL (c/n 31146) registered to Helicopters NZ Ltd on 06 Nov 2008.
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VH-NZF (c/n 31156) registered to Helicopters NZ Pty Ltd on 06 Jan 2009. (Less than a week old).
ZK-HUL (c/n 31146) registered to Helicopters NZ Ltd on 06 Nov 2008.
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David
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Here's some nice photos of these two AW139s at Perth...
VH-NZF:
JetPhotos.Net Photo » VH-NZF (CN: 31154) Helicopters NZ Agusta-Westland AW-139 by KianHong
ZK-HUL (now registered VH-NZE as of 16 Jan 2009):
JetPhotos.Net Photo » ZK-HUL (CN: 31146) Helicopters NZ Agusta-Westland AW-139 by KianHong
JetPhotos.Net Photo » ZK-HUL (CN: 31146) Helicopters NZ Agusta-Westland AW-139 by Brenden
JetPhotos.Net Photo » ZK-HUL (CN: 31146) Helicopters NZ Agusta-Westland AW-139 by Brenden
Regards,
David
VH-NZF:
JetPhotos.Net Photo » VH-NZF (CN: 31154) Helicopters NZ Agusta-Westland AW-139 by KianHong
ZK-HUL (now registered VH-NZE as of 16 Jan 2009):
JetPhotos.Net Photo » ZK-HUL (CN: 31146) Helicopters NZ Agusta-Westland AW-139 by KianHong
JetPhotos.Net Photo » ZK-HUL (CN: 31146) Helicopters NZ Agusta-Westland AW-139 by Brenden
JetPhotos.Net Photo » ZK-HUL (CN: 31146) Helicopters NZ Agusta-Westland AW-139 by Brenden
Regards,
David
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New EBA???
I heard HA have emailed all pilots due to start at KTA with a new EB asking them to vote to accept it via a secret ballot.
I heard the only main changes to the EBA is to introduce a 2 yr bond (did they forget this first time round??) and as a deal sweetener added a slight increase to life insurance. Dont think a many will jump at that...
I wonder if the 'secret ballot' will be a ploy to tell all the EB is in no matter what the guys vote. How would they know if the count is correct if it is secret?
I heard the only main changes to the EBA is to introduce a 2 yr bond (did they forget this first time round??) and as a deal sweetener added a slight increase to life insurance. Dont think a many will jump at that...
I wonder if the 'secret ballot' will be a ploy to tell all the EB is in no matter what the guys vote. How would they know if the count is correct if it is secret?
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Given that type ratings for new employees without AW139 on their licence have already been completed in Italy and that offers of employment have been made and accepted/rejected, it would appear to be a moot point.
Pilots will have been made aware of any training bond applicable before attending the course.
Pilots will have been made aware of any training bond applicable before attending the course.
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HNZ, Helicopters (Australia), HNZ (Australia) up to old tricks...
Same dog, different leg action.....
Still trying to give the boys a pineapple, going on past dealings I believe it..
Same dog, different leg action.....
Still trying to give the boys a pineapple, going on past dealings I believe it..