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Old 12th Jul 2008, 06:40
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Wink Interesting start procedure...

Is this a fairly common way to start a 500 in N. America?

YouTube - Hughs 500 startup Pilot John Paden
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Old 12th Jul 2008, 06:59
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Starting up outside is only asking for trouble. If anything goes wrong wrong, try explaining it to the insurance company !!
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You could always make a quick getaway, walking away quickly and say it wasn't you if something does go wrong.
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TTTTTTooo Rissssky,

unless of course you stood on the skid so you could clamber on board to settle down any out of balance problems,!!!... but on the whole I think that I would be seated and belted, call me old fashioned but.. would you people do that?


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What are you all talking about, this is how I was shown and it is the way I do it. Especially when it is hot weather out side. That way i only hope in when I ready to go.......
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yeah pretty dumb, a bit of a show-off i think.
Its a really long start too, if it was my machine id be getting the FCU adjusted.
Ive seen doosh-bag mustering pilots do this in Oz too with Robbies.
Always want to be in the seat on start
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Yeah Start bit to slow for sure
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I beleive air regs in my part of the world say: "pilot seat must be occupied by a person which can control the aircraft".

Can't check that box
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Hehe you guy´s crack me up

Check these crazy maniacs out, and no one in the drivers seat

YouTube - Tractor start with Shotgun Cartirage
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Hah ! certainly not on a UK field , No Hi-vz ! ear defenders?? H&S police would love that and definatly not in proper control.
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Perhaps the only really unsafe thing in the film is he left the aft door unlatched. The rest was just plain stupid.....but then I have seen worse things in the woods.

I have seen a Hiller Soloy cranked up on a trailer by a pilot doing as the one in the film did....and then he walked over to the office trailer for a cup of coffee while the ol' Hiller whined away on the trailer that was not attached to a tow vehicle and thus had no brakes.

I asked him to have a bit of pity on me....as his Chief Pilot I would have to be the one to explain to the FAA just exactly how his aircraft ran off the bluff at Ground Idle without him in it.

Then I came up with a grand idea.

I told him if that ever happened....I would bring a Micky Mantle thirty-six inch Slugger Baseball Bat to the "crash" scene and beat hell out of him until he looked as if he had been in the aircraft when he lost control and crashed.
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Good solution SASLESS!! I'll use that one in the future if you don't have a patent on it.

Helicopters can be compared to horses - never walk around the back lest you be kicked & if it's ready to gallop you'd better be strapped to its' back!! At least the camera man wasn't sitting under the tail rotor while filming, so they obviously have a healthy safety culture
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tis a bit daft esp when 500's have sprung pedals with no feet on them they rest in the full left pedal position so I hope it's on firm ground.
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Old 12th Jul 2008, 20:20
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Fuel on, brakes on, throttle closed, switches off

To which the ground crew would occasionally append, "and make sure they stay that way."


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Old 12th Jul 2008, 22:32
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Crazy,

Normally one pulls the locking pin from one pedal and then turn the pedal around to block the pedals thus relieving the stress on the tail rotor and keeping the pedals in neutral.
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I like how he winds the throttle on to full noise and then ties his shoe laces
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I like how he winds the throttle on to full noise and then ties his shoe laces

You guys spend much time around 500's ??
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He read a Lessons Learned write up by Nick Lappos on the topic of tying boot laces.
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Memories

Bootneck,
That takes me back, my first life working at Plymouth Airport with the Navy basic training and Airwork. (1967) Love the old Chipmunk but never did get to fly one after I crossed the line to the flight side.
We actually looked after a guys aeroplane from Truro (Trumane??) been a long time.
Anyway thanks for the flash back.
And yes have been caught out by some dumb student who really left the switches on, always paid to swing the prop with caution.
Fly Safe
Oh and the 500 starter,he obviously has thumb in bum and head to follow shortly. What an idiot.

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Old 13th Jul 2008, 20:21
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In the "old days" of venison recovery/live capture in New Zealand this probably happened with 40 different aircraft on any one day!

Don't you love people's assessment of risk "assumptions" by the uninformed. How much difference would it make it if the pilot was in the pilot seat?
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