Bell 412/212 Training

[helipilot2]

Happy new year PPruners. SURELY, there is a JAA FTO offering the IR on the Bell 212/412. All contacts above have been checked with no joy.

[N707ZS]

Have you tried Spain Inaer or FAASA.

[Heli-Ice]

Links please?

[TunaSandwich]

INAER do not have an FTO, only TRTO so unable to do an IR.

FAASA has an FTO but as far as I know do there IR courses on A109's. I would suggest getting in touch with them to see if they could do it in a 212/412 although I think it unlikely. Also might be an issue getting hold of an English speaker to give you the information, although I'm sure the IR instructors are fluent in English

http://www.faasa.org/index2.cfm?codigo=0400

Good luck! let us know.

[N707ZS]

FAASA run basic corses on Hughes 300s then operate Bell 212/412s for fire dutys. They have just bought a large number of AW119s.

[e-miles]

Hi all, Faasa is doing IR course on the Bell 412, no more on the A109.


Cheers

Miles

[S76driver]

412 sim

The 412 sim in Dubai is JAR approved, although as of a few months ago they didnt have a resident examiner, but they did say they were getting one!

[Heli-Ice]

I guess this has been posted before but...

Would any of ou like to share where one can get a JAA approved Bell 212/412 type rating training and what should one expect to pay for it?

[maeroda]

training?

@Heli-Ice

go and gather some info's at Oxford simulator (former SAS) in Stockolm, Sweden; now their sym is JAA approved for type rating and comes approx. 1000€/hour dry.

Otherwise if you cross the Alps southbound you will manage to spend over 2500€/flight hour if going for the real machine in Airgreen, Elilombarda, Inaer, Elitaliana.
They all have web sites.

Cheers

[Heli-Ice]

maeroda

Thank you.

[helipilot2]

Bell 212 /412 IR

Hi,

I am still trying to find a JAA FTO capable of conducting a 15 hour JAA IR package in the Bell 212/412. 10 hrs minimum in a FNPT2 and 5 hours in the aircraft incl skill test. With the implementation of EASA from 8 April, keen to get it complete in Feb/Mar before any changes have an impact.

The following have been tried;

FAASA, Proflight, Inaer (not a FTO), UK (no FTO able to)

PPruners help required.

HP2

[GoodGrief]

Sounds like you want to convert ICAO IR to a JAR IR.
Why does it have to be a 212/412 ?

[helipilot2]

Goodgrief,

UK Mil/CAA dispensations. Already have a JAA type rating on the 212/412, which would prevent having to complete another type rating, providing I find a company to complete the IR package.

HP2

[hueyracer]

Not mentioned before?

Get in contact with Mr. Bönig from the company "Motorflug" in Baden-Baden/Germany.

He will take you to the Simulator in Stockholm....the cheapest (AFAIK) you can get.....

I´ll need to go there by myself....so maybe we can share one or two hours....

[212_Nightdipper]

Huey please check you pvt messages...Thanks

[helipilot2]

Hueyracer,

Thanks for the info, just emailed the company. I'll keep you posted.

Regards,

HP2

[mad hound]

Bell 212 Type Rating Re-validation

My UK CAA ATPL (H) needs bringing up to date and thanks to the recent ruling that prevents CFS Agents from conducting the type rating assessment, I now need to seek the services of a civilian TRE in order to make the grade. As I am currently instructing on the type in the military, I may be able to gain use of an aircraft with which to conduct the check but it seems there are very few Bell - rated TREs out there. Does anyone out thereknow of a jobbing Bell 212/412 TRE who might be able to help?

[ambidextrous]

B212/412 TRE

Hi, why don't you try PMing 'Troglodita' ? He's a well seasoned commercial 212/412 man who spends his time between Dubai and Nigeria. He may be able to help or recommend someone.
With fraternal greetings,
ambi

[apb]

Mad, in Spain you can do It with:

FAASA Aviación

and

INAER, líder global en servicios aéreos de emergencia y mantenimiento de aeronaves

[helipilot2]

Hi MH,

Good to see you the other day . I tried to follow a similar path but for the IR, unfortunately there was only one possible company in the UK that could assist and they own your current aircraft.

There is a couple of TRI/TRE's in EASA land that could help. Please see the PPRUNE link below:

http://www.pprune.org/rotorheads/326...-training.html

Hope that's useful.

HP2