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Old 27th Jan 2008, 14:19
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Air Sea Rescue video - RACQ Careflight Helicopter

Here is a nice video of a pick up from a ship with crew audio.

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=77046.

The story about the fishermen cutting off the sharks head whilst the fisherman still had his leg in it is interesting as well.

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Old 27th Jan 2008, 16:04
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Good job fellas.
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Old 27th Jan 2008, 20:40
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ouch very nice work
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Old 28th Jan 2008, 05:55
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Good skills?

"Move back and right left!" he said, with a worryingly frantic tone for such a stable deck in benign conditions .

Back and right left - which direction is that then? Back to school.
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Old 28th Jan 2008, 06:01
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Talking

Vie sans frontieres.

what a di**head you really are. I could only imagine what it's like to be in a cockpit with someone like yourself. Thankfully I have not had the pleasure of flying with too many knobs.
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Old 28th Jan 2008, 06:13
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Jeepys - Vie is absolutely correct - that is poor patter, especially in a benign scenario- If you don't appreciate the problems that can cause then learn about SAR.
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Old 28th Jan 2008, 06:39
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As always, someone ready to cut someone else down.

Crab & Vie: Pull your heads in!

Ohh, sorry. I didn't realise you two were perfect. My mistake

Just see the story in the light that it was posted here - something different.
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Old 28th Jan 2008, 08:44
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Vie

Check your facts you ignorant S^&t. Totally different organisation - CareFlight QLD as opposed to the 'mob' you are so quick to slag off in NSW!!!

Well done guys.

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Old 28th Jan 2008, 08:50
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"Thats not a con THIS IS A CON!!!"

I'm not interested in the pissing matches that seem to go on regularly when some specific "Not for Profit" type agencies are involved in free advertising or S%$& slinging but I've spent my fair share of time listening to "Cons" from both very good and very average crewman. I must say that there are portions of this one that leave quite a bit to be desired. Iím sure your average punter donating money drummed up by such propaganda would be impressed but purely because they would not know any better. If that vessel was pitching and heaving and required the crewman to lift his game I'm sure things would have sounded different. Or I bloody well hope so for his rescue crewmanís sake.
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Old 28th Jan 2008, 10:24
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Good job Parky!
As far as the sledging.....I hope you guys have never made a mistake (clearly not). Please post a vidoe of yourselves so that we can give it a thorough critique.....
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Old 28th Jan 2008, 12:44
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So some of you guys don't think there is anything wrong with giving incorrect directions when you are the only guy who can see the boat (evidenced by the confirmation once clear that the pilot then had references). Although the clearance from the vessel should have been pre-briefed, things can change and without references the pilot can only follow the 'con' - if that is poor then the aircraft and casualty are in danger.

You call it sledging - we call it critiquing and any professional worth his salt should accept that, I do when I make a mistake (and no I'm not perfect). If people don't want their mistakes to be seen then don't release the video to be beamed around the world.
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Old 28th Jan 2008, 18:09
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Oh f%@! me.

What the hell is going on?

Its just a video showing guys doing a job.

Maybe "RIGHT" means cleared for the back part of the clearnace.

Either way the clearance was immediatly repeated.

Man , I posted the link just to show another real video of something being done, not posers making a video.

I like EMS becuase thats where I want to go, why shoot that video down & request it being removed, good lord... grow up you immature children.

You guys must be busy making comments on every video of someone making mistakes or things you dont agree or like with video's.

Are you guys really that good?

HELIPORT, please remove the comments not the thread, or just close this thread off from comments being added.

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Pass the peanuts..
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Old 28th Jan 2008, 19:42
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HELOFAN - strangely, those of us who do that sort of thing for a living don't get thrilled by a video of a very boring lift from a standard deck in nice weather and a flat sea. We certainly don't start slapping backs and saying 'nice job' - it is routine and very straightforward.

However, during this piece of video, some of us who are very familiar with the dangers associated with winching, noticed an error in patter. Yes the guy made a mistake and it didn't cause a problem - 90% of the viewers didn't notice but to Vie and myself it was a glaring error.

If you want to keep posting videos on a professional pilots forum, expect professional pilots to pass comment
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Old 28th Jan 2008, 20:09
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Crab, sorry to hear you are not thrilled about flying videos when its something you do.

I hope that when I make it into the field that I choose, I am not bored seeing someone do a decent job of it.

You are right about the comments though, I guess when I posted on a professional pilots forum, I expected professional pilots to pass professional comments.

Videos like this help gain support for all EMS/rescue units when often times are tough financially, I would think that any good publicity is good publicity.

I see it and think good on them & maybe the general public will do the same, and help by donations next time they see the oportunity to do so.
How many operations are shutting down because of lack of funds & or public interest?

I am not one that is going to get all excited about seeing a video when its choppy seas, the boat is on fire in 70 ft swells, yeah its dangerous but when would you rather do the lift?

I am not affiliated with any services, I am a bum student, not even in toad country.

Sad state of affairs.

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Old 28th Jan 2008, 22:12
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Back to school, kiddies

This thread is (yet) another awful example of what we don't appreciate in Rotorheads.

I feel like the schoolteacher in the playground being demanded to adjudicate a squabble between a bunch of 8 year olds. Your posts are so dreadful, I decided not to moderate any of them, and leave them until you all feel embarrassed enough to do something about them on your own.

FFS, grow up in NSW and start behaving like adults. You are adults, aren't you?

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Old 29th Jan 2008, 01:52
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fish Poor shark!

What about the poor shark? Ooch.

I believe he was a trainee aircrewman also, or was it a her!
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Old 29th Jan 2008, 05:55
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Senior Pilot - whatever you think of the criticism of the video, it was neither Vie or myself who started the playground name-calling, nor did we reply in kind. If you want to improve the quailty of posts on Rotorheads then moderate the posters who make no contribution other than personal insults.
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Old 29th Jan 2008, 07:36
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OK. I am on here to reply to the "critique" given by Crab et al.

Crab, you said:

Although the clearance from the vessel should have been pre-briefed, things can change and without references the pilot can only follow the 'con' - if that is poor then the aircraft and casualty are in danger.
Many organisations that I have worked with have a standard brief before all winch ops (either overwater or land). These are practiced and briefed regularly. They are carried out before any winch extraction.

In all my time winching off vessels (no matter what the sea state), the clearance from the vessel is at the pilot's discretion as he is the one holding the reference (once handed over from the crewman). You can't pre-brief this distance (clearance) as the factors facing you dictate this (ie. type of vessel, obstructions, sea state, etc). Probably different mentalities due to the geographic location (UK versus Aus).

"Move back and right left!" he said, with a worryingly frantic tone for such a stable deck in benign conditions .
The correction was made so quickly as to be hardly noticed. And as for the "worryingly frantic tone", every person is different. You work with a crewman long enough and you get to know their style of talking. I didn't think it was frantic at all.

Iím sure your average punter donating money drummed up by such propaganda would be impressed but purely because they would not know any better.
Clearances: Thanks for jumping on here for your first post but just to let you know, QLD Rescue (Government) and alot of the CHC machines have cameras on their aircraft as well - but that it is alright for them to show their winches on TV isn't it.

I stand by my first post. Good job guys! Anyway, it was only shown on TV due to the shark component.
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Old 29th Jan 2008, 07:53
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Thumbs up

I think the guys did a pretty nice job. A good honest con. Also AFAIK this is not the group who slag the others....That merely seems the reserve of certain, individuals with no lives to speak of.

Nice work on public view.

I also think it's quite cynical to over critique every slip of the tongue situation. If the difference between doing something safely and unsafely relies on one conning direction instruction..........then the PIC was in the wrong place and by default not in control of the situation, to start with. Overdoing the critique thing is tedious and damages confidence all round.

Risking lives to save lives???.....= unsound practice IMHO.

I am not associated with that organisation or any other in Queensland.

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Old 29th Jan 2008, 08:24
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Its all so easy to sit back and rubbish everyone but you guys put yourselves in their shoes and lets see how you do the job.
PUT UP OR SHUT UP
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