Pilot of the Year 2007 ?
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JimBall
Possibly Jim, but surely only up to the point where one starts forcing lorries to swerve out of the way (lorry move out the way! That'll be a first!) and jumping red lights in an attempt to evade chasing police officers.
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Davy,
I think as he is currently suspended, at some stage, one way or another, he will be un-suspended
Bristol
Speeds up to 110mph in a temporary speed limit of 40mph was in place on the M5.
Fined £2,000 and banned from driving for 12 months.
Cambridge 2005
http://www.policeaviationnews.com/Ac...ANJuly2005.pdf
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/c...re/4084248.stm (11 June 2005)
http://www.cambs.police.uk/newsappea...sp?NewsID=1532 (15 Aug 2006)
118mph in a 70mph zone (A1)
21-day ban and a £400 fine
Notice anything?.....where are the points!!!!!!
Anyway, the main thing to note here IMHO, is that there were workers actually out on the motorway roadworks . The only ones I have ever seen are the cone putter-outers!
Ever wonder why they use those really high intensity floodlights?...So you can't see that they are not there!!
Will this effect his current pilot position??
Bristol
Speeds up to 110mph in a temporary speed limit of 40mph was in place on the M5.
Fined £2,000 and banned from driving for 12 months.
Cambridge 2005
http://www.policeaviationnews.com/Ac...ANJuly2005.pdf
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/c...re/4084248.stm (11 June 2005)
http://www.cambs.police.uk/newsappea...sp?NewsID=1532 (15 Aug 2006)
118mph in a 70mph zone (A1)
21-day ban and a £400 fine
Notice anything?.....where are the points!!!!!!
Anyway, the main thing to note here IMHO, is that there were workers actually out on the motorway roadworks . The only ones I have ever seen are the cone putter-outers!
Ever wonder why they use those really high intensity floodlights?...So you can't see that they are not there!!
In the current police pilot recruitment climate, surely this raises a number of interesting questions.
Ok what he did was illegal, but should it affect his ability to function as a police pilot, or should a police helicopter fly less than it would because there is no one around to fly it. Should he effectively get away with that kind of speed on a public road because he is a Police Pilot like others may have ?
I doubt most of us are beyond reproach and if thats the case then should this incident stop him flying in his role.
Maybe one more strike and your out may be appropriate for people in this position. Although how could the system be seen to condone that, if say he had killed a kid on his way home.
I don't know him, don't wish to judge him, just think its worthy of debate because I certainly do not know the answers.
It has been initmated on PPRune that there is more to this than meets the eye and perhaps that is the case, I do not know.
GS
Ok what he did was illegal, but should it affect his ability to function as a police pilot, or should a police helicopter fly less than it would because there is no one around to fly it. Should he effectively get away with that kind of speed on a public road because he is a Police Pilot like others may have ?
I doubt most of us are beyond reproach and if thats the case then should this incident stop him flying in his role.
Maybe one more strike and your out may be appropriate for people in this position. Although how could the system be seen to condone that, if say he had killed a kid on his way home.
I don't know him, don't wish to judge him, just think its worthy of debate because I certainly do not know the answers.
It has been initmated on PPRune that there is more to this than meets the eye and perhaps that is the case, I do not know.
GS
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Double Jeopardy
...Police employees are 'tried' twice. The second 'court' can often be more severe than the criminal one. I know a police officer suspended for drink driving and other traffic offences...fined 500 by the court banned for 12 months (first offence). He deserved the ban....but he was sacked as a result...lost his job and a pension worth over 250,000.....
The failing to stop for the police will be the cruncher here!
Hope he manages to keep his job.
The failing to stop for the police will be the cruncher here!
Hope he manages to keep his job.
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As "Islandcrazy" mentioned, the pilot will now more than likely be put through the force's internal discipline process.
This type of driving incident isn't that unusal, people drive dangerously through roadworks and make off from the Police on a daily basis. The problem for this person is because of his occupation then the national press have picked up on it. This is my opinion but it leaves the force in question with little else to do but look at a charge of bringing the force into disrepute.
However because members of Police "Staff" (civilians) have more employment rights and much stronger unions than Police Officers, it is usually more difficult to sack them. Hence the reason that there are entire "posse's" of under performing next to useless PCSO's walking the streets of the UK
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This type of driving incident isn't that unusal, people drive dangerously through roadworks and make off from the Police on a daily basis. The problem for this person is because of his occupation then the national press have picked up on it. This is my opinion but it leaves the force in question with little else to do but look at a charge of bringing the force into disrepute.
However because members of Police "Staff" (civilians) have more employment rights and much stronger unions than Police Officers, it is usually more difficult to sack them. Hence the reason that there are entire "posse's" of under performing next to useless PCSO's walking the streets of the UK
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"posse's" of under performing next to useless PCSO's
"call road workers idiots"
Anyone spot the "dumbing down" going on here?