R44 Glass Cockpit!
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R44 Glass Cockpit.
A search on the forums found nothing, maybe I'm doing it wrong, but has this not been discussed here yet??
R44 Glass panel.
YouTube - Aero-TV Heads Aloft With Sagem's R44 Glass Panel Retrofit
eBay Motors: Robinson R44 EFIS (item 250192569310 end time Feb-18-09 21:16:29 PST)
The possibilites for this thing seem endless! Never flown a glass cockpit, but must be pricey transition on to a rotory wing aircraft with one.
Imagine this in the R66! Turbine time and Glass Panel training all wrapped up into one hopfully cheapish rating.
Would love a go on this.
R44 Glass panel.
YouTube - Aero-TV Heads Aloft With Sagem's R44 Glass Panel Retrofit
eBay Motors: Robinson R44 EFIS (item 250192569310 end time Feb-18-09 21:16:29 PST)
The possibilites for this thing seem endless! Never flown a glass cockpit, but must be pricey transition on to a rotory wing aircraft with one.
Imagine this in the R66! Turbine time and Glass Panel training all wrapped up into one hopfully cheapish rating.
Would love a go on this.
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There was a thread a while ago about it. Looks nice but the debate is "is it to much for a 44??" If you have the money for a private ship go for it.
It doesnt add up for a company or a school though
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It doesnt add up for a company or a school though
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Yeah, your probably right, $65k plus fitting is pricey. But matched with the R66 I think it could be another story. Commercial training is my thinking, not some ppl learning to fly....
R66 i think would look nice with one of them.......who is gonna tell Frank that it has to a standard item to make it at least a bit different than a normal R44????
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Quite agree with you there.
It does need something to make it different from the R44, yes it has a turbine and a extra seat, but obviously a turbine engine is nothing new in Helicopters and a 4 seat turbine is abit overkill and pointless as the R44 does it already.
But whack a glass cockpit in and you've got something there imo, obviously the EC120 has some nice goodies but at what price.
A good priced 5 place turbine helicopter with a nice modern glass cockpit would be fantastic and could seriously damage the competion.
The fact that alot of students will be trying the R66 and could hot start it is quite a worry, well i'd worry if I owned one! Why not make it as student proof as possible?
Glass cockpits are becoming more popular these days even some LSA's are getting them so to bring out a whole "new" helicopter without seems a bit daft imo.
Bought in bulk by Robinson, fitted by there own engineers to save a bit of money and it doesnt HAVE to up the price a rediculous amount.
Obviously up to them on what price to add for such a thing, but could be done, even as a factory optional extra.
But at the very least to saftey precautions put in place for students. (Engine wise)
It does need something to make it different from the R44, yes it has a turbine and a extra seat, but obviously a turbine engine is nothing new in Helicopters and a 4 seat turbine is abit overkill and pointless as the R44 does it already.
But whack a glass cockpit in and you've got something there imo, obviously the EC120 has some nice goodies but at what price.
A good priced 5 place turbine helicopter with a nice modern glass cockpit would be fantastic and could seriously damage the competion.
The fact that alot of students will be trying the R66 and could hot start it is quite a worry, well i'd worry if I owned one! Why not make it as student proof as possible?
Glass cockpits are becoming more popular these days even some LSA's are getting them so to bring out a whole "new" helicopter without seems a bit daft imo.
Bought in bulk by Robinson, fitted by there own engineers to save a bit of money and it doesnt HAVE to up the price a rediculous amount.
Obviously up to them on what price to add for such a thing, but could be done, even as a factory optional extra.
But at the very least to saftey precautions put in place for students. (Engine wise)
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Yea i started a thread on it in 2007. Looks excellent alrite!
http://www.pprune.org/rotorheads/297...s-cockpit.html
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I do agree with ye, the notion that franky should include a glass cockpit into the R66, to actually make it LOOK like a turbine at least!!!
But in regards to the glass cockpit 'protecting' the heli... Wont do a thing, all it is remember is a interface to improve the ergonomics of the system, to reduce pilot workload, if your looking to protect your turbine, your going to need a FADEC, flick the switch and it runs it up to idle for ya, improves fuel efficieny etc...
Either that, or dont let them do anythin (solo) until you (the instructor) is certain that there not going to arse it up!!!
Really and truely, is there any 100% fool proof 'aircraft'...!?
But in regards to the glass cockpit 'protecting' the heli... Wont do a thing, all it is remember is a interface to improve the ergonomics of the system, to reduce pilot workload, if your looking to protect your turbine, your going to need a FADEC, flick the switch and it runs it up to idle for ya, improves fuel efficieny etc...
Either that, or dont let them do anythin (solo) until you (the instructor) is certain that there not going to arse it up!!!
Really and truely, is there any 100% fool proof 'aircraft'...!?
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One would wonder why they would not put in a FADEC.
Can any of the 'experts' elucidate on the costs/challenges of FADEC vs non-FADEC controlled engines?
Does a FADEC need to be designed as part of the engine, or could it be added on externally?
Can any of the 'experts' elucidate on the costs/challenges of FADEC vs non-FADEC controlled engines?
Does a FADEC need to be designed as part of the engine, or could it be added on externally?
