R44 Glass Cockpit!
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Second Hand Astro £120k
Annual Servicing £20k
Insurance £6k
Sagem Glass Cockpit Fit Out £20k
Flying around the countryside pretending to be a real helicopter pilot (because you now have a glass cockpit)...... priceless
(still have to make the noise of a turbine to fool the pax as you fly)
I'll run for cover.....
Annual Servicing £20k
Insurance £6k
Sagem Glass Cockpit Fit Out £20k
Flying around the countryside pretending to be a real helicopter pilot (because you now have a glass cockpit)...... priceless
(still have to make the noise of a turbine to fool the pax as you fly)
I'll run for cover.....
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Seeing as you're running for cover I will try and get a predictable quick shot in....
Did you train on turbines?
Did you train on turbines?
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Total overkill!
We're talking about a R-44, VFR flying. It enhances terrain awareness, but distracts the pilot, so might induce more incidents/accidents even.
I like my R-44 the way it is.
We're talking about a R-44, VFR flying. It enhances terrain awareness, but distracts the pilot, so might induce more incidents/accidents even.
I like my R-44 the way it is.
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(still have to make the noise of a turbine to fool the pax as you fly)
Side sound effects, for 20G I'd reckon that a few options should come as standard. Side sound tracks for a start.
My preference would be a muted turbocharged bell 47, modulating in and out with collective movement.
Some may prefer the reliable DC6B sound track, interspersed with a bit of Yothu Yindu as one wound along the Katherine Gorge or the Grand Canyon, with their mouth gaping touro's on board.
Then others may prefer to be apocaclypsing now and or then, who knows???
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Sagem Glass Cockpit
Installing a Sagem system on a R-44 is a complete waste of money. That particular system goes $100,000-NOT including installation costs. I know this, because I almost installed one this year in my 206B3-I backed off because of the return investment would be nill.... I opted for the Garmin 530 WAAS and 430 WAAS as backup.
Two cents....
Two cents....
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$65,000-You have incorrect info
Rotorcraft support located at KVNY. Received bid early 2007.
Price for unit $90,000-Problably gone up by now-2008 prices. Installation approximately $15,000.
The $65,000 figure in my opinion is misleading.
If you perform a factory install much cheaper. To rip out your current panel. A real pain in the rear end.
Now-Unless there is a major difference between a 206 panel and a R-44 panel.
I stand by my statement.
Price for unit $90,000-Problably gone up by now-2008 prices. Installation approximately $15,000.
The $65,000 figure in my opinion is misleading.
If you perform a factory install much cheaper. To rip out your current panel. A real pain in the rear end.
Now-Unless there is a major difference between a 206 panel and a R-44 panel.
I stand by my statement.
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I fly with the Sagem screens and I think they are worth it..
super reliable.
cheap spares.
looks modern and professional.
approaching limits the bars change colour to warn.
wind speed and direction arrow on screen
dalt + accurate oat on screen
if you can afford it do it, there will be a return on the investment on resale also you wont be changing intermittent, inaccurate, sticky, illegible, noisy, leaking guages that clutter up the dash any more.
this is the way of aviation in the future so if you or your boss can afford it... why not?
super reliable.
cheap spares.
looks modern and professional.
approaching limits the bars change colour to warn.
wind speed and direction arrow on screen
dalt + accurate oat on screen
if you can afford it do it, there will be a return on the investment on resale also you wont be changing intermittent, inaccurate, sticky, illegible, noisy, leaking guages that clutter up the dash any more.
this is the way of aviation in the future so if you or your boss can afford it... why not?
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Geezasss!
This stuff has been sprouting up in welded wings for quite some time and apart from the reduced mechanical complexity I can't see the point. It invites head inside the cockpit and along with some serious "push-button-itis" is an invitation to disaster as far as attention diversion goes. Electro mechanicals are still required as a backup, so why don't they just stick with these and enjoy the outside view otherwise you may as well paint the inside of your plexi-glass or go fly FS X!!
I've had my rant... rN
I've had my rant... rN
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I agree that the glass cockpit can make you want to constantly oggle at the screens and yes this is a danger but the benefit from finding all your important information in one spot weighs heavy.
It took me a bit of time to stop looking inside but when the proverbial hits the fan I am glad to have such precise information available at an blink of an eye.
The Rad alt alone IMHO is safer compared to the analogue one because it's easier to read which in my current job is very important.
It took me a bit of time to stop looking inside but when the proverbial hits the fan I am glad to have such precise information available at an blink of an eye.
The Rad alt alone IMHO is safer compared to the analogue one because it's easier to read which in my current job is very important.
before start up, or screens will ligth after start up? Does anyone know?