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Old 16th Oct 2007, 03:00
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Fill it up and go for it - the world will be a better place!
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Old 16th Oct 2007, 05:19
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You just have to look at FTE's previous posts to reveal that he makes no sense at all!
Mate, you obviously didn't read me previous post bout how good a fighter I am. I reckon you need to tread very carefully.....

As far as the "full fuel" goes, if I didn't suspect any better, I reckon you don't care if I stoof in!

Also, from 3top:
The cheapest one only costs you a couple of bucks at homedepot or just borrow the broom from someone....
Try balancing it on your right hand - when you can maintain a conversation, hold the broom steady without having to run after it and possibly even look a the person dumb enough (that would most likely be your matey Davo...) to talk with you, instead of looking at the broom - you're close to try the real thing.
Mate, thanks for this, went to the pub last night, had a few with Davo then left to get a broom from Ethael's place & headed back for a go in the Exec. A few problems arose, note sure if I'm doing to quiet right..
I had to yell VERY loud to talk to Davo, plus as soon as I balanced the broom as you suggested, the bloody rotors cut it clean in half!
Was that just a really dumb suggestion on your part, or did I get it wrong? (maybe I shouldn't start at night)

Come on, unless you guys have some more serious suggetions on how to help me get me little pipe skid chopper in the air, please stop highjacking me thread!

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Old 16th Oct 2007, 10:01
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Flapping 2 Equality,
I love a man with ambition! You should talk to the fine boys (and occasional Sheila) at Nowra. Those bright lads would give you a tip or two for the price of a beer. (Not on a Friday afternoon tho, would have the same result as your local instructor)

Otherwise have you tried the Moeller Skycar method? Get yerself a large crane with a long boom, attach a flexible coupling to the rotor head (otherwise after your first attempt you would need to engage the rotorhead in reverse gear to untwist the wire) and get a mate to winch you into the air for your hovering practice.

The best bit of this method is you can practice your transitions too! You will look a bit like one of those cheap wizzy toys that buzz round the ceiling but hey, we can live with dented pride.

The Darwin Awards await those intrepid pathfinders.

Good luck!


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Old 16th Oct 2007, 10:45
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Mate you must be a bit of a pullthrough if you think flying choppers easy.
Theres a few chicks that can fly but they are only really good as 2nd mate eh !
To get the the old 162 in the air you need to get a couple a lessons in a real chopper like a Brantley , sort the poofters out real quicko !
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Old 16th Oct 2007, 13:01
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You know that little voice in your head when you read something. Well the one in my head has an Australian accent when I read this. Hey some people are easy to wind up though
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Old 16th Oct 2007, 13:01
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Hey, all those wise guys don't have a clue, how to learn to hover.
They just want you to break your neck. Since I am a member of the WWF, you can trust me.
Here is the way that really works.
First you need about 8 empty beer drums. If they are not empty, you and Davo know what to do next friday.
Now fix those drums on the skids, four on each side. Now put your "chopper" on a trailer and drive to the next pond and let it float. Now you get in and start it up and learn to stay where you are. Since it is not possible to fly with the beer drums, you are save ... except if you forgot to seal the drums due to the terrible hangover.
Now that works...
BTW: Big green reptiles tend to bite in beer drums. If that happens ... I would be really sorry.
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Old 16th Oct 2007, 13:21
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FTE, mate,....

quote:

...A few problems arose, note sure if I'm doing to quiet right..
I had to yell VERY loud to talk to Davo, plus as soon as I balanced the broom as you suggested, the bloody rotors cut it clean in half!
Was that just a really dumb suggestion on your part, or did I get it wrong? (maybe I shouldn't start at night....

Know what? Gime a call when you're back from Pluto....

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.....on 2nd think, don't.
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Old 16th Oct 2007, 13:27
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And isn't the "handle" itself a little clue to maybe more rotary knowledge than he makes out.............
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Old 16th Oct 2007, 14:01
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Hey now, a few of you blokes are taking the piss, I can tell!
In case ya's didn't read before, I can't hover YET, but can fight with the best of em. No more stupid suggestions, only good flying advice for me pipe skid chopper.

ps. Here is me photo, so ya all know I can take a beatin and still keep going........



pps. Ya's don't wanna see a photo of Davo, believe me!!!

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Old 16th Oct 2007, 14:31
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Chuteless.....not quite pc, but I did allow myself a little chuckle!
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Wobble2plank:
Get yerself a large crane with a long boom, attach a flexible coupling to the rotor head (otherwise after your first attempt you would need to engage the rotorhead in reverse gear to untwist the wire) and get a mate to winch you into the air for your hovering practice..
Awesome, but you obviously know nothing about the Exec 162f. It has no reverse gear rotor head function (well, not my model anyway, maybe the VIP version does??) Hey, don’t take me the wrong way, it’s a top plan & I ran it past Davo (he has no large crane, but told me that he has a 'sky hook' that would work…..whatever that is?). I reckon the best way will be to “pre-back-wind” the gearbox. From here, once on the sky hook, she should give me a good ride. Again, if it comes off, will send some of Davo’s photos.

chuteless:
I'm good at fighting too and I got a mate, he's called Desso
we got a lot in common
, if you was a sheila you'd be perfect (your're not are you?)

Mate, appreciate your attempt at bonding. I think you guys are good at rugby, but I ain’t a woman, & you’re very close to barking up the wrong tree.
Although, I must say I am somewhat flattered.

Rotorbee:
First you need about 8 empty beer drums. If they are not empty, you and Davo know what to do next friday.
Now fix those drums on the skids, four on each side. Now put your "chopper" on a trailer and drive to the next pond and let it float. Now you get in and start it up and learn to stay where you are.
Mate, I appreciate your concern for me welfare, but are you completely MAD? I reckon I got me work cut out for me trying not to stoof this bugger in on land, yet you wanna send my out on the water? You did have one top suggestion though…..me & Davo drinking 8 kegs of beer. That’s gotta put in a confident mind frame for me trial flight. Thanks!
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I agree with the chopper hanging from a crane. The most dangerous thing about flying is the ground, so avoiding it would be a big plus.
Getting off the ground might be a problem if you attach too much tubing to the 162. Read the manual, it usually has good tips about flying. It typically has advise about lifting off, such as 'adjust pedals as required'. Good as gold...
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Old 16th Oct 2007, 16:01
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NO NO I think you have it slightly wrong...
The keg idea....with the power of your exec, and the empty kegs,you would end up taking off prematurely, and we all no it's not good to do things prematurely!!
So this is how you do it.

Attach your 8 FULL of beer (Speights is best, not your Fosters or xxxx) kegs to your skids, add caster wheels to the bottom of all the kegs.
Now I know your exec is grunty but you shouldn't get off the ground, so you can practice moving around a bit till you get the hang of it. She won't tip over as you have strapped her good to the kegs with ya No.8 wire.
Now the best bit
As you get better at moving her around, you start drinking the kegs, (Davo can help with this part), to lighten her up, not to much at a time, drink a bit fly a bit, you will be getting more and more air time all the time. By the time you have emptied the kegs, you will be experienced enough to take the empties off and go for it!

I hope this helps, I would come over and help with the kegs, but I'm afraid you will skip the most important part about using "Speights" and use some cheep aussie stuff!

Good luck
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Old 16th Oct 2007, 17:47
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Are you completely out of your mind? Full kegs? Do you want to kill that poor bastard? With his IQ of a dead squirrel you want to let him loose on caster wheels?
Listen FtE.... thousands of CAA certified pilots have learned hovering by using my method. They all fly in the north sea today and are more then happy when they can ditch again for whaterver stupid reason. It is the way to go....
But if you can not find a pond without big green reptiles, the next best river will do. You only have to learn fast enough to avoid the next whitewater.
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Old 16th Oct 2007, 18:41
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This is what happens when you tie a helicopter to an immovable object.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=HBbD5oD5FTY
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Old 16th Oct 2007, 19:05
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Originally Posted by rotorbee
Are you completely out of your mind? Full kegs? Do you want to kill that poor bastard? With his IQ of a dead squirrel you want to let him loose on caster wheels?
Listen FtE.... thousands of CAA certified pilots have learned hovering by using my method. They all fly in the north sea today and are more then happy when they can ditch again for whaterver stupid reason. It is the way to go....
But if you can not find a pond without big green reptiles, the next best river will do. You only have to learn fast enough to avoid the next whitewater.
RB
That may be ok for your pond hopping opp's, But for FTE to get from his place to Davo's, he will be on dirt, maybe the odd tree and kangaroo in the way, but nothing the Exec can't handle.
Besides, where is he going to find water, you can see by the photo he doesn't know what the stuff is!
And if he does have a billabong near by, you will end up drowning him!
The Exec won't get far strapped to 8 kegs for a start, and once he has drunk enough, his skill level will grow as fast as he drinks!
Simple if you ask me, thats the way to do it, was how I learn't, well with one exception, we used 'All Blacks' insted of kegs, they were a good "dead weight", took a bit to get them to work as a team though!

Sorry FTE, I didn't mean to steel the thread, but my way is safe
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Old 17th Oct 2007, 08:39
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Eight AllBlacks? Wow, respect. Was the haka part of the lesson?

He, who has the same instinct of self preservation as a lemming, will never drown. Any water with a bit of self respect will immediately repel him.
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Old 17th Oct 2007, 08:52
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Don't mention this will only lower the level of this post perhaps the 8 on the skids will promote team work especially if the long poles are used,
As a resident of the old country I find this post illuminating, there is a certain flair to it.
FTE PLEASE let us know how you progress
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Old 17th Oct 2007, 09:08
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Wink Flappin

YES that will work. I did it. But you need to get some tough orange leather footballs to put on the end of your cross pieces so you can slide/hover around with light skids. Paint a big white circle around yr Exec (perfect machine) and make sure you don't leave it or go higher than two feet until you can hold it still and do a 360 rotation both ways. Then you are about ready to fly.... It took me about 1hr and is easier on flat grass as the ground cushion is more forgiving. You will learn more about that later on in your career. Keep an eye on your fuel level as it's easy to forget when busy flappin!!
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