FAA Helicopter training in UK?

[Uncle Munkle]

Hi Guys,

I'm the new boy and I need a bit of help!

I currently have 35hrs training in a R22; but for medical reasons I am unable to continue JAR.

I am seeking to continue my training under FAA Regulations;I have quite recently passed my FAA medical.

For personel reasons I wish to continue my flight training in the UK ,but I'm struggling to find a FAA instructor/school.

Can any one help.

Thanks.

[S-Works]

I am pretty sure you will draw a big zippo blank on that one!

[muffin]

It may be better to do the search the other way round and try and find an instructor from the US end. There was a guy who operated out of Gloucester who was an FAA and JAA instructor but I have not heard of him for ages. I don't know what the FAA regs are regarding school requirements though.

[Whirlygig]

Try moving the post to Rotorheads; I know there are a couple of FAA examiners in the UK and I think Tiger Helicopters can do FAA (they're at Shobden).

Cheers

Whirls

[Kit d'Rection KG]

Doesn't it strike you that, if you can't hold a UK medical, you're, fundamentally, not 'fit to fly' in the UK?

You might be able to twist the rules and keep flying, but it'll be through a loophole which will, in due course, perhaps be closed.

Fierce irony if you were to have an accident with a some element of medical cause.

Why not accept that there's a medical 'problem', and accept that flying requires a high medical standard, which, sadly, you don't meet any more..?

I'm sorry to hear you can't have a UK medical - but it could be worse, no?

[Whirlygig]

So Kit, are you saying that all US trained pilots are not fit to fly in the UK? Sounds like it to me.

Cheers

Whirls

[S-Works]

jesus kit you are an asshole.

just because the Euro regs are platinum plated does not make them any better. The FAA have a vastly superior database of experiance on medical matters and have no worse a problem than we do under JAA.

In this day and age of diminishing GA flyers we should be supporting people to fly not discouraging them.

I assume from this and your other posts that you are a bona-fide sky god with a perfect medical profile.

[IO540]

Bose x is right on the mark above

One can spot the usual axe grinder from a mile away.

Uncle you have an email.

[Bravo73]

Munkle,

Try asking Helicopter Services in Wycombe. They should be able to find you someone.


HTH

[anti-talk]

Why not finish in the US

Better still, get yourself out to us in Florida on a 1 week vaction and get finished off. The price difference should more than compensate for your travel expenses.
Check your PM's

[Gordy]

anti-talk...

There is such a thing as "visa's" and TSA requirements for training........

[paco]

Just one thing to watch for - you may need CAA permission to use their airspace and aircraft. Not a biggie, but one thing in the paper trail.


Phil

[dogpaddy]

You could give Tim Price a call down at Shoreham. Looks like he ticks all the boxes.

Check out his website, you'll find more details there:

http://www.shorehamhelicopters.co.uk/Home.html

regards,

dp

[anti-talk]

Yes Gordy,but that should only take about a month and with wx deteriorating over in Blighty I would suggest its worth the wait and the small extra cost.

[Bravo73]

Originally Posted by anti-talk

Yes Gordy,but that should only take about a month and with wx deteriorating over in Blighty I would suggest its worth the wait and the small extra cost.

Yes anti-talk, but you could've bothered to actually read UM's opening post (rather than trying to promote your Florida-based flying school.)

Originally Posted by Uncle Munkle

For personel reasons I wish to continue my flight training in the UK

[Kit d'Rection KG]

No, Whirly, I'm saying, very clearly, that someone who is medically unfit to hold a medical issued in the UK, and then twists the rules to stay flying, is trying to buck the system, and I think they ought to ponder the consequences of that.

I'm not going to waste my time going through all the arguments so well described in 'Attitude or Latitude' (Doctor Graham Barithwaite) (albeit, with reference to Australian safety rather than US, but the principles are the same), but I will say that the UK has enjoyed one of the best 'safety' records in the world, and that it's presently going downhill, partly on account of all the folk who think they know better. And there are lots of them.

Oh, by the way, Whirly, I've found a universally lower standard amongst US-trained pilots I've been around (trained, interviewed, or checked) than UK-trained ones, if that helps at all... Where did you get your qualifications?

[Bravo73]

Kit,

FYI, that's 'Whirls' you're talking to (not 'Whirly').

And, FYI (again), they both trained in the UK.

[helimutt]

Sorry but I have to agree partly with Kit here. I know his point seems argumentative but he is right in as much in that the CAA (JAR, whatever) won't grant him (Unkle Muncle) a medical for whatever reason. The FAA will ,so great, let him fly. The point here is that to fly, generally, in the UK, the medical requirements are fixed and therefore why let people get around the rules by doing another countries medical to enable him to fly here. There is usually a very good reason why people fail medicals.

If I lost my medical here, could I then go get an FAA medical/licence and continue to fly in this country. Ask yourself this question:- Would you let me fly your family around under these circumstances. that's the standard I use.

[Kit d'Rection KG]

Bose thingy wrote (without bothering to spell or capitalise properly, or use correct grammar, though I know I'll get in trouble with the forum stazi if I mention that):

jesus kit you are an asshole.

just because the Euro regs are platinum plated does not make them any better. The FAA have a vastly superior database of experiance on medical matters and have no worse a problem than we do under JAA.

In this day and age of diminishing GA flyers we should be supporting people to fly not discouraging them.

I assume from this and your other posts that you are a bona-fide sky god with a perfect medical profile.

To tackle your points in sequence by paragraph:

No, not at all, I'm a through-and-through aviation professional;

That's not statistically significant, as their circumstances (particularly with regard to weather) are markedly different to ours in Europe for the reasons that my good chum Graham highlights;

Why should we - what are the benefits to our society of this - is there a nett benefit in GA? I don't believe there is, whatsoever, and I'd like to see private light (leisure) aviation decline. Private light (leisure) aviation pollutes appallingly (mostly noise, but other 'emissions' too) and I stand with Clarkson regarding its worth. By the way, how do you view being 'under JAA' as significant?;

Yes, right in one!

Bravo, thanks for the correction - and thanks for the information that they have met a higher minimum standard than the very low minimum standard that I was talking about. I won't ask about resits and partial passes...

[Bravo73]

Originally Posted by Kit d'Rection KG

I won't ask about resits and partial passes...

Yawn. psyan's back.