Working and Living in Trinidad
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From: St.Kitts
Bye Forever
The Scottish Lad has obviously hit a sore nerve. I've been monitoring the last couple of threads and I have to say that it seems that TRINIFLYER may be a new comer to the wonderful world of aviation.
He/she, more likely she, really is clueless to the fact that when someone leaves their family/home to come over to work, they need to be compensated in some way. Expats do have lives and families that they leave behind and separation is difficult, but you would not know that as copilots like yourself have never had to leave MOMMY AND DADDY behind. It's quite normal to expect to pay expats a salary that would make it worth their while. Face it, without EXPATS, you would not have the manpower to keep those contracts, or benifit from their experience. 150 hrs on a Robinson isn't experience by any strech of the imagination. So I suggest that you and all others like yourself SHUT it until you've been thru a war/conflict, survived enemy fire and paid your dues........
He/she, more likely she, really is clueless to the fact that when someone leaves their family/home to come over to work, they need to be compensated in some way. Expats do have lives and families that they leave behind and separation is difficult, but you would not know that as copilots like yourself have never had to leave MOMMY AND DADDY behind. It's quite normal to expect to pay expats a salary that would make it worth their while. Face it, without EXPATS, you would not have the manpower to keep those contracts, or benifit from their experience. 150 hrs on a Robinson isn't experience by any strech of the imagination. So I suggest that you and all others like yourself SHUT it until you've been thru a war/conflict, survived enemy fire and paid your dues........
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Well said, Camelman,
This has been a regularly occuring theme on numerous threads.
The local pilots get their knickers in a twist as to "WHY, OH WHY do those bloody expats who come here to take our jobs and wives/girlfriends then drink our beer get paid SO MUCH?? We want to get the same money they do, for the same 6/6, 4/4, 8/4 etc etc roster they work!!"
No one ever sits down and calculates that these expats on that roster with the hours they rack up will actually fly up to their limit for the year and in some cases over the limit, nor do they give a moment to consider that those same expats give up literally HALF their lives with their loved ones to come and do the jobs that a lot of the smaller, often dodgy operators COULD NEVER DO on their own, without the same expats they moan so much about.
This has been a regularly occuring theme on numerous threads.
The local pilots get their knickers in a twist as to "WHY, OH WHY do those bloody expats who come here to take our jobs and wives/girlfriends then drink our beer get paid SO MUCH?? We want to get the same money they do, for the same 6/6, 4/4, 8/4 etc etc roster they work!!"
No one ever sits down and calculates that these expats on that roster with the hours they rack up will actually fly up to their limit for the year and in some cases over the limit, nor do they give a moment to consider that those same expats give up literally HALF their lives with their loved ones to come and do the jobs that a lot of the smaller, often dodgy operators COULD NEVER DO on their own, without the same expats they moan so much about.
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From: St.Kitts
One more Thing..
If they take the time to look at the roster, they'll see that someone on a local rotation gets the same time off as the expats. It may not be all at once as a 56/28 guy but the time off is still there...and in most cases the major holidays are credited to their leave.
TRINIFLYER I dare you to dispute this......
TRINIFLYER I dare you to dispute this......
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From: west of East Lat
I doubt those on the current departure list are leaving due to the lack of time off. Most will be motivated by the Money and of course experience.
I would wager that the main reason for leaving will be the opportunity to escape the bu
it that the BCL management causes them to endure.
No one can condemn an individual for the wish to better their life and experience through financial gain, unless you are of the marxcist persuasion.
Good on those who have made a decision to leave or are in negotiation, You will be all the better for it.
For those who want to know, The Group has a myriad of opportunities.
Make the Call, and ask for a transfer !
For those who do not have the correct licence, experience or type,
NOW YOU KNOW WHY YOU'RE IN TRINIDAD !
ST
I would wager that the main reason for leaving will be the opportunity to escape the bu
it that the BCL management causes them to endure.No one can condemn an individual for the wish to better their life and experience through financial gain, unless you are of the marxcist persuasion.
Good on those who have made a decision to leave or are in negotiation, You will be all the better for it.
For those who want to know, The Group has a myriad of opportunities.
Helicopter Pilots – Locations Various Pilots required for international work, we operate Sikorsky S76, S61N, Eurocopter AS332L, EC155 and Bell 212/412. We offer an excellent package including competitive tax free salary, pension scheme, life insurance, medical insurance free flights and food and accommodation. ... Job Hours: Full-Time | Location: Global | Job Position: Permanent | Company: Bristow Helicopters Ltd | Published Date: 28 September 2007 14:24:52
For those who do not have the correct licence, experience or type,
NOW YOU KNOW WHY YOU'RE IN TRINIDAD !
ST
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From: Here and there...
Go on guys, apply!! I DARE YOU!!
Then, when you find yourself sat in the hotel in Eket or the RA in Warri and the shots are going off just down the road you will look back on your time in TnT and realise that the only reason the grass is greener over the fence is because there is more to fertilise it that side.
GO on, if you want the Expat life, grow some cojones and take the plunge.
Then, when you find yourself sat in the hotel in Eket or the RA in Warri and the shots are going off just down the road you will look back on your time in TnT and realise that the only reason the grass is greener over the fence is because there is more to fertilise it that side.
GO on, if you want the Expat life, grow some cojones and take the plunge.
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Quick question Scottishterrier: you seem pretty peeved about BCL's management, local pilots, and Trinidad in general.....so why don't you leave, "oh great experinced expat that's left family and friends behind to get paid more than a local boo hoo hoo, yada yada ya"??
Just wondering, as I spent a few years there and voted with my feet
Just wondering, as I spent a few years there and voted with my feet
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From: west of East Lat
Leaving
PEEVED.
With management, not at all. Critical, you bet your sweet life I am.
With Locals, Not at all, disappointed you bet your sweet life I am.
With Trinidad, Peeved eh !. Trinidad does have its limitations, even the locals recognise this and have given me their view.
LEAVING
You know I may well just do that !
ST
With management, not at all. Critical, you bet your sweet life I am.
With Locals, Not at all, disappointed you bet your sweet life I am.
With Trinidad, Peeved eh !. Trinidad does have its limitations, even the locals recognise this and have given me their view.
LEAVING
You know I may well just do that !
ST
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From: west of East Lat
Payscale
Moderator
I have deleted my last.
This was merely a commentry on my experiences.
You are correct this should not be the place for much of the previous posting.
Apologies for the necessity of your involvement.
ST
I have deleted my last.
This was merely a commentry on my experiences.
You are correct this should not be the place for much of the previous posting.
Apologies for the necessity of your involvement.
ST
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From: west of East Lat
more integrity
Code of Business Integrity Quotes thereof
Showing tolerance of peoples differences and dealing with their issues fairly !
Acknowledging and recognising people for their contributions and performance !
Weighing alternatives considering both short and long term effects and then being resolute in the decision they make !
comments
ST
Showing tolerance of peoples differences and dealing with their issues fairly !
Acknowledging and recognising people for their contributions and performance !
Weighing alternatives considering both short and long term effects and then being resolute in the decision they make !
comments
ST
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From: Here and there...
Moderator, if I caused any offence, my humblest apologies!
Scottie, don't you know those standards only apply if you do something wrong and they need a stick to beat you with, and not as a moral compass for manglement?
Scottie, don't you know those standards only apply if you do something wrong and they need a stick to beat you with, and not as a moral compass for manglement?
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From: west of East Lat
STICK
unbearableLoad.
This surely cannot be another situation of one rule for one and one rule for another !
Surely Mr W E Chiles when he put pen to paper or dictated his PA, was serious about this, considering it was required to do the test and sign the code.
Even our esteemed Moderator can see that this is a legal obligation !
Could this be the reason the dude from IT got fired over the BRISTOW SONG !!
OH MY GOD a get out clause
I believe there is a rumour of some Long service awards at BCL.
Step forward Cadets !
ST
This surely cannot be another situation of one rule for one and one rule for another !
Surely Mr W E Chiles when he put pen to paper or dictated his PA, was serious about this, considering it was required to do the test and sign the code.
It is critical that all company employees have a full and detailed understanding of our core values and our code of business integrity, and understand what that means for you in the workplace, as well as in business dealing on behalf of the company
Could this be the reason the dude from IT got fired over the BRISTOW SONG !!
OH MY GOD a get out clause
Waivers
Ther will be no waiver of any part of of these policies, including for any director or officer, except by a vote of the Bristow Board of Directors(the Board).
Ther will be no waiver of any part of of these policies, including for any director or officer, except by a vote of the Bristow Board of Directors(the Board).
No adverse action will be taken against any employee for making a complaint or disclosing information in good faith.
I believe there is a rumour of some Long service awards at BCL.
Step forward Cadets !
ST
