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Old 22nd Oct 2007, 11:56
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I've been using ANR in my helmet for 5-6 years from Headsets, Inc in Amarillo, Tx. Don't know if there regular headset is any good but the helmet unit is nice, especially with the Oregon Aero ear seals. Every now and then I un-plug just to remind myself that ANR is needed.
What ever you use, make sure they work well in the passive mode because if they don't your ears are being damaged without you knowing it. I'm only 46 and can't hear my wife fart. A buddy of mine works at the local funeral home and he's been trying to get me a good pair of used hearing aides. So far all he's come up with is teeth. Protect them ears.
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Old 23rd Oct 2007, 16:01
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Apparently what would be the cats whiskers is having those earplugs which get molded into your ear and therefore take up most of your shell like which then also covers the just outside of your ear canal where you pick up the high pitch noises. Racing drivers and ground crew wear them and we in aviation should have them now really. But they cost £200 a pop apparently which is of course cheaper then loosing your hearing. But convincing the pay master might be tricky.
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Old 24th Oct 2007, 04:37
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For a headset I prefer the in-the-ear type, using standard foam earplugs. The NRR numbers are better across the board than any ANR headset, and especially in the higher frequencies. They're also far more comfortable in every way.

Now that I have to wear a helmet, which I detest, I'm using CEPs, Communications Ear Plugs, which are essentially the same thing as the in-the-ear headset, but made to go under the helmet earseals, and plug into a jack installed in the shell. The noise level with these is actually higher with the helmet on, for some reason, probably because the shell concentrates and ducts the noise into the ears. I've checked it by removing the helmet, leaving the earplugs in, and the noise level actually decreases when the helmet is removed. I F&*(*^G HATE HELMETS!!!!!
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Old 7th Nov 2007, 21:13
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DC x11

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Any comments on your DC x11 headsets yet? Never was a fan DCs but these seem to have a better fit than Bose. And don't suffer the low/high impedance problem or do they?

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Old 8th Nov 2007, 08:43
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I use a pair of DC x11's in my Astro. They are superb and £200 less than the Bose. Unlike all previous DC ANR sets, they are incredibly light and comfortable. I use the two into one cable converter (from Transair or others) and the battery life is very good. Part of the pre-flight is to check you've a green light on each unit then you're good for two or three hours. If flashing red, change the batteries (2xAA) before you fly. I've never been let down by the batteries in flight, but am sure that the passive performance of the x11s is better than the Bose if you lose power to them anyway.

Standard ipod and phone connections also work great and all the cables you need for this come with the x11s.

I was concerned about intercom compatibility with still using a pair of cheap Peltors in the back, but the four sets are perfectly fine with each other.

Couldn't recommend them highly enough.
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Old 8th Nov 2007, 10:07
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DC x11

Thanks B47.

I'm on my way to get a set.
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Old 8th Nov 2007, 13:14
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DC x11

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Unfortunately due to a comedy of errors I'm still waiting on the arrival of the 'Y' plug so I haven't as yet used them in anger. I hope you have more luck than I have so far. I will of course still post my impressions here when (and if) the lead arrives. Ahh.... the joys of touring in a foreign country. Off topic but at least something else is arriving shortly to keep me interested. It's big and it's got an 'S' and a '92' in it's name.

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Old 8th Nov 2007, 13:26
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DC x11

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I've got a set and y leads but not used in anger yet, perhaps I can let you know?? off thread...Sounds like Christmas is coming early for you!

Enjoy yourself.
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Old 8th Nov 2007, 13:29
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Watch it ANR is addictive!! Just like helicopters!

I ALWAYS use common cotton ear plugs. Actual reason is to prevent ear infection problems form moisture. If you are flynig in very humid areas you might have your own experience with ear pain...
A good side effect is that they also cut down on noise quite a bit.

Depending what you want/can spend on your headsets I would go for Headset Inc.
Absolutely second an earlier post ontheir performance. My helmet is awaiting resurrection with a headset kit.

Their headset is probably the best bang for the buck and work very well.
You also can have them custom made at no extra cost:
long or short cable, coiled or straight, 1 or 2 volume controls, 1K,2K,5K volume controls (I would take te 5K...), different batterybox options, frame mounted power supplies,..... just check them out...

I believe some of the other suppliers actually use their modules....

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Old 31st Jan 2008, 22:20
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sennheiser hmec250 anr headset

has anyone used these headsets in a helicopter if so how do they perform? if not can anyone recomend a good noise cancelling set (not bose)to be used in a h300 thanks.
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Old 31st Jan 2008, 22:46
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just a little off the thread, yesterday whilst flying a 76 I heard a loud med. frequency noise ( it turned out to be a short in the PA system ). I asked the captain if he could hear the noise, he couldn't and thought I was on drugs.

It wasn't until we shut down and he took his ANR head set off that he could hear it. This proves that they work but raises the question what other noises do they cut out.
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Old 31st Jan 2008, 23:16
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Thumbs up Lightspeed Mach 1

I've been using the Lightspeed Mach 1, I see no need to ever use dome type headsets again. See the discussion here:
http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthread.php?t=310838

Also, here's a good article about hearing and damage to the ear:
http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthread.php?t=310838
 
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david clark x11

anyone got any comments on the david clark x11 for a h300
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I had a pair of DCx11, thinking they were the best headsets for the job!! I took them back after 10 hours persevering with them. Just not man enough for the 300. I think the 300 is the noisiest environment to work in and it was important to me to sort this issue out, I tried several Headsets and eventually settled with Sennheiser HMECC 250. Not only excellent noise reduction but comfortable and they fold flat and fit your flight bag. The batteries seem to last forever too.

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Old 1st Feb 2008, 10:42
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thanks for the reply what did you find the problem was with the dc x11 ? do you think the senheiser 250 are as good as the bose?
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Lightspeed have produced a new series of ANR called Zulu. I tried a pair and thought they were great. They are similar size and weight to Bose, but are cheaper in price. For the tech heads they are also Bluetooth compatable.

The helicopter version is being released in March - I'm on hold for a pair.
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Old 1st Feb 2008, 11:07
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The DC x11 were just not giving any noise reduction at all. I would take the headsets off and the noise level was almost the same, press the ear cups to your head and they worked a little better, but the ANR was virtually non-existent especially for the price. The Bose are obviously the best but they have mic problems for different aircraft and are pricey. The Sennheiser are not cheap but certainly cheaper than most quality headsets but nevertheless work extremely well in all the types I fly from piston to turbine. Also comfort was a big issue although DC x11 were by far the most comfortable headsets out of all the one’s I tried, the Senn’s are very snug and I think better than Bose in that respect and work just as well.
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Old 1st Feb 2008, 15:14
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Question

Does anyone have any experience of using a bose in the S61? I have an electret mic and it doesn't seem to work (I can hear everything else fine, ANR works etc). Do I need a dynamic mic or is there something else I haven't thought of? Help would be much appreciated!
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Old 27th Feb 2008, 04:52
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I have brought a LightSpeed Zulu headset, i have not tried a Bose or a X11, so i cant really compare, but i believe my Zulu is worth its weight in gold! as it was my first headset that i brought, naturally i did a lot of research (between the Bose, LightSpeed and DC X11) and i ended up settling on the Zulu because:
The bose is very expenive and hardly any passive noise cancelling if your batts go dead.
the X11, havent really heard anything good about it other than the price, but i didnt really care about that.
the lightspeed has many awesome features, is moderate in price, very comfortable, not too bad if batts fail, all though sound quality becomes very crap. but the sound quality is absolutely excellent when the batts are running, great for listening to music and flying (i have only done that while sitting in the back so far, but the comm-mute works very well indeed.
PS. I wouldnt go without ANR again

My 2 Cents.
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Old 27th Feb 2008, 14:41
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Bose, Bose, Bose, every time for me!
They go thru a lot of AA barttery's tho!
Always have a new set of AA battery's on you, just in case.
If the battery's fail in flight, you still hear all transmissions but the noise will be deafening.
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