Bond/OAT "Sponsorship"
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It appears they have put asside a week to get through all the candidates....
If each candidate is paying around £200......The cheaky sods will be making a fair bit of money out of this wont they?
I cant help feel that almost everyone who applied at stage 1 will have been "asked" to go to stage 2 making it more of a lottery/con job than an actuall application process.....
If each candidate is paying around £200......The cheaky sods will be making a fair bit of money out of this wont they?
I cant help feel that almost everyone who applied at stage 1 will have been "asked" to go to stage 2 making it more of a lottery/con job than an actuall application process.....
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I cant help feel that almost everyone who applied at stage 1 will have been "asked" to go to stage 2
I’m not singling out OAT for attack here, I understand most Flight Training providers do the same thing.
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But who is going to say that they didn't get through? You can't really tell!
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Selection
Can anyone point me in the direction of any threads / posts that contain detailed information on the selection process. I would like to be as prepared as i can for the selection.
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I wonder how many who have been called for the second stage actually have a PPL(H) or even just a few hours in the book towards it? Just from the point that, if you don't, what the hell do you actually say when the board ask you why you want to fly helicopters for a living?!?!
I don't think 'Because it looks like a fun challenge' would quite cut it
memories of a long ago AIB when they asked why I wanted to join the navy, hence the question!
I don't think 'Because it looks like a fun challenge' would quite cut it
memories of a long ago AIB when they asked why I wanted to join the navy, hence the question!
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I wonder how many who have been called for the second stage actually have a PPL(H) or even just a few hours in the book towards it? Just from the point that, if you don't, what the hell do you actually say when the board ask you why you want to fly helicopters for a living?!?!
Is previous flight training experience or a PPL required?
No. It can sometimes be a useful indicator of an applicant’s interest in flying, although we do understand that many applicants may not have had the means or opportunity to take flying lessons.
I don't think the lack of a PPL(H) or rotary hours should count against a candidate. Fixed-wing training still develops skills relevant in RW flying, and not everyone knows they want to be a helicopter pilot from day one (we all want to be jet jocks when we start - that's how it works, right?
)As for the military comment - even they start off with FW training!
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I hear that Taffer, but regardless of the advert, it's a question your going to get asked. When I joined the R.N., the nice man that came to school also said it didn't matter if we hadn't been on a Yacht before, but I sure as hell got asked why I thought it was for me at the board!
Okay, I'd been Sea Cadets etc beforehand, so I had a bit of a clue, but you get the gist of where I'm going with this! But hey, at £200 a skull going in the coffers, they aren't going to give a crap if you sit there and talk teletubbies, are they Kerrrrrchhhhiiiiiing
Okay, I'd been Sea Cadets etc beforehand, so I had a bit of a clue, but you get the gist of where I'm going with this! But hey, at £200 a skull going in the coffers, they aren't going to give a crap if you sit there and talk teletubbies, are they
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Didn't get that question at my AIB - got the standard 'could you take a human life?' one. Boring.....
I agree with your point - while no experience is not necessarily a hinderance, anything that you've done to look into your career path or try it out is a bonus.
I agree with your point - while no experience is not necessarily a hinderance, anything that you've done to look into your career path or try it out is a bonus.
I suggest that you start ploughing through the Wannabes forum and read any thread with 'OAT' in the title.
Use of the search function will also help. Unfortunately, the search function won't pick up 3 letter words (ie OAT) but searching for 'Oxford' and 'selection' should be a good start.
Who knows, the interviewers might even appreciate those who show a bit of initiative...
Best of luck with the interviews.
PS To all those knocking the application fee, do you think that these tests are free to run?
Why shouldn't the organisers recover some of their costs?
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Information regarding OAT testing.
http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthr...oxford+testing
If anyone has applied for the Bond ab-initio scheme and has NOT been asked to attend for stage 2, please send me a PM and I will publish how many, if any, PM's I get.
http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthr...oxford+testing
If anyone has applied for the Bond ab-initio scheme and has NOT been asked to attend for stage 2, please send me a PM and I will publish how many, if any, PM's I get.
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TJF97,
I'm sorry to hear that you didn't get through, and have got a lot of respect for you for having the balls to admit to it, where I'm sure plenty of others would not.
However, I do feel that your criticism of L A James is a little unfair. I think he was merely suggesting to Martin1234 (and anyone else reading this thread) that one might not feel inclined to share such news with a wider audience.
As tegwin says, it's a bit of a lottery. You appear to have plenty of skills and experience neccessary for a career in the aviation industry, and I am sure that this will be recognised sooner or later.
To this end, I wish you all the best,
Pete
I'm sorry to hear that you didn't get through, and have got a lot of respect for you for having the balls to admit to it, where I'm sure plenty of others would not.
However, I do feel that your criticism of L A James is a little unfair. I think he was merely suggesting to Martin1234 (and anyone else reading this thread) that one might not feel inclined to share such news with a wider audience.
As tegwin says, it's a bit of a lottery. You appear to have plenty of skills and experience neccessary for a career in the aviation industry, and I am sure that this will be recognised sooner or later.
To this end, I wish you all the best,
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FWIW I think many posting on pprune would do well to consider all the users of these forums. More importantly some forum users will no doubt be involved in any selection process. (Be it Bond OAT or where ever)
With a little effort it is not normally that difficult to attach an identity to the user name (especially with a detailed listing). With a selection of poorly worded posts and some play ground back biting and oneupmanship I'd be asking myself some serious questions right now if I was interviewing candidates for this opportunity, And then probing a little deeper during any selection process to see whether it's simply internet bravado or a character trait that may cause later problems
Perhaps some hoping for future good news should do similar. Nothing worse than realising too late that you've shot yourself in the foot
Not a rant. You either take advice from those you aspire to join or you don't.
Whilst I feel for those who didn't get past stage 1, and wish luck to those attending stage 2. I hope those that get these coveted places DESERVE them.
AND rapidly editing or deleting posts just proves the point
With a little effort it is not normally that difficult to attach an identity to the user name (especially with a detailed listing). With a selection of poorly worded posts and some play ground back biting and oneupmanship I'd be asking myself some serious questions right now if I was interviewing candidates for this opportunity, And then probing a little deeper during any selection process to see whether it's simply internet bravado or a character trait that may cause later problems
Perhaps some hoping for future good news should do similar. Nothing worse than realising too late that you've shot yourself in the foot
Not a rant. You either take advice from those you aspire to join or you don't.
Whilst I feel for those who didn't get past stage 1, and wish luck to those attending stage 2. I hope those that get these coveted places DESERVE them.
AND rapidly editing or deleting posts just proves the point
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Just returned from Hols, and found the Stage 2 Invite in the multitude of spam, anyone know when we are given/pick our dates for that week.
I too suspect that there are going to be a hell of a lot of us.
I've done the OAT selection before and I have to say its bloody good fun!!
I too suspect that there are going to be a hell of a lot of us.
I've done the OAT selection before and I have to say its bloody good fun!!
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Redeye, you been away? There was a post in between that was deleted (hence flingingwings comment) to which the commiserations apply!!
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Flingwings, how true! Not just for this stage of the game either: many pilots would do well to consider the old adage "don't sh*t on people on your way up, as you never know when you may come accross them on your way down!"
Or, perhaps more likely, what those people may say about you to those who you later come to, asking for a job
Or, perhaps more likely, what those people may say about you to those who you later come to, asking for a job