R44 Pop-out floats
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Hello Scooter Boy,
Thanks for your reply - all understood. Just to clear up any confusion as to why I am asking these questions is that I have no intention of ditching a R44 or inflating the floats - this is research for a software project and I am just trying to get the size and shape (pictures) of the pop out floats when inflated and how they sit in the water, as well as some ref pics of the actuating controls.
I have mailed Robinson but have not yet seen a reply. They may be busy at Oshkosh of course as it was the PR dept I mailed, but in the meantime of anybody can help out with pics I would be most grateful.
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Alex Ford
Thanks for your reply - all understood. Just to clear up any confusion as to why I am asking these questions is that I have no intention of ditching a R44 or inflating the floats - this is research for a software project and I am just trying to get the size and shape (pictures) of the pop out floats when inflated and how they sit in the water, as well as some ref pics of the actuating controls.
I have mailed Robinson but have not yet seen a reply. They may be busy at Oshkosh of course as it was the PR dept I mailed, but in the meantime of anybody can help out with pics I would be most grateful.
Many thanks
Alex Ford
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Keeping a helicopter the right way up in a swell has traditionally always been a tricky problem due to the high CofG.
I'm sure Robinson must have tested this to get FAA certification for the system.
I recall Dick Sandford talking about the low CofG on the Robinson Safety Course and the ability to remain upright in quite a high sea state but I do not recall the source of the data (but I do remember a photo). SB, any better recollection of what he said?
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B.T.W. Can somebody tell me where the cylinder that holds the nitrogen(?) that is used to inflate the floats is kept on the aircraft please? If in the cabin is it normally in view when flying or under a seat or such like?
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Bravo73,
I just noticed that you wrote:
>PS Just noticed that you wanted a shot of the heli floating on water. Will a float test in the hangar do?
Yes that may be of help - do you have any others apart from the one shown in your previous posting please?
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I just noticed that you wrote:
>PS Just noticed that you wanted a shot of the heli floating on water. Will a float test in the hangar do?
Yes that may be of help - do you have any others apart from the one shown in your previous posting please?
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Under the left hand front seat (as you can see in the picture).
Apologies for the lamentable quality of this 'interim' picture.
Seen from the outside, ze float packs (which we all hope would work if needed)
Apologies for the lamentable quality of this 'interim' picture.
Seen from the outside, ze float packs (which we all hope would work if needed)
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Hello helicopter-redeye,
Thanks for that initial pic. I am presuming the red handle is the actuator for the floats that you grip in a upwards fashion? Is the silver horseshoe shape the safety catch you release to enable the handle to be pulled?
Also assuming that that the red handle is in the 'safe' position in the pic?
Also I assume (2!) that when the left seat is down the bottle is totally out of view?
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Thanks for that initial pic. I am presuming the red handle is the actuator for the floats that you grip in a upwards fashion? Is the silver horseshoe shape the safety catch you release to enable the handle to be pulled?
Also assuming that that the red handle is in the 'safe' position in the pic?
Also I assume (2!) that when the left seat is down the bottle is totally out of view?
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Thanks for that tip, I had a look but they only have a single unattached pic on display, but maybe me worth chasing up with a mail.
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Thanks for that tip, I had a look but they only have a single unattached pic on display, but maybe me worth chasing up with a mail.
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Yes the bottle is under the seat (you can get a small bag on top and next to as well).
The red handle is the trigger.
The silver U shaped part is the safety catch. From the RHS front seat using thumb press the safety bar in and turn round backwards. The system is now armed. Pull the trigger up to fire.
Remember to take the pin out of the bottle before flight (Pin not shown here) but if you cannot see it and its attractive orange streamer then you should be able to see it behind you hanging from the headsets hook to remind you the system is armed.
The red handle is the trigger.
The silver U shaped part is the safety catch. From the RHS front seat using thumb press the safety bar in and turn round backwards. The system is now armed. Pull the trigger up to fire.
Remember to take the pin out of the bottle before flight (Pin not shown here) but if you cannot see it and its attractive orange streamer then you should be able to see it behind you hanging from the headsets hook to remind you the system is armed.
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helicopter-redeye,
Thanks for that info. The nice PR lady at Robinson has kindly sent me some good pics of the emergency floats inflated and attached to the skids so what I am looking for now is a small set of decent quality pics of the collective attached part of the system, preferably (or more) 4 views, one each from either side, one from the top and one (as far as possible) from the underside so that I can accurately see how it is set up and placed - if you are able to do that I would be very grateful, but of course understand if you are unable to do that.
I see you are up at Sheffield, I am just north of Oxford - I would come up and see you (if that was OK with you of course!) to take the pics myself but I am on holiday from the end of this Friday so am unable to do so at present, but my fellow colleagues would appreciate the pics so that they can work on it whilst I am away.
Many thanks
Alex Ford
Thanks for that info. The nice PR lady at Robinson has kindly sent me some good pics of the emergency floats inflated and attached to the skids so what I am looking for now is a small set of decent quality pics of the collective attached part of the system, preferably (or more) 4 views, one each from either side, one from the top and one (as far as possible) from the underside so that I can accurately see how it is set up and placed - if you are able to do that I would be very grateful, but of course understand if you are unable to do that.
I see you are up at Sheffield, I am just north of Oxford - I would come up and see you (if that was OK with you of course!) to take the pics myself but I am on holiday from the end of this Friday so am unable to do so at present, but my fellow colleagues would appreciate the pics so that they can work on it whilst I am away.
Many thanks
Alex Ford
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Here are the pictures
Bottle under LH seat with pin in (safe)
Lever up with trigger visable RH front seat
Pin in 'flight mode'
Trigger detail seen fron right hand side
Top view (note safety catch lock on RHSide and loop matching bar RHS
Lever up with trigger fron LH side (as it would be in an emergency landing at touchdown just before firing the mechanism)
Lever down from LH seat
If you want to view the technology 'in the flesh' this is OK in 2 weeks + as I'm away
h-r
Bottle under LH seat with pin in (safe)
Lever up with trigger visable RH front seat
Pin in 'flight mode'
Trigger detail seen fron right hand side
Top view (note safety catch lock on RHSide and loop matching bar RHS
Lever up with trigger fron LH side (as it would be in an emergency landing at touchdown just before firing the mechanism)
Lever down from LH seat
If you want to view the technology 'in the flesh' this is OK in 2 weeks + as I'm away
h-r
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Question time again please!
On the picture below what is the yellow text on the black bit shown in the red circle also does the black bit move? As far as I can see the black bit is a rectangle of metal that the U shaped safety pin that stops the handle being pulled, slides in and out of?
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On the picture below what is the yellow text on the black bit shown in the red circle also does the black bit move? As far as I can see the black bit is a rectangle of metal that the U shaped safety pin that stops the handle being pulled, slides in and out of?
Thanks
Alex Ford