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Old 12th Jun 2007, 17:51
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helicopter down

Helicopter crashes at Codner derbyshire at 15 35 any more info will post later hope all is well with crew.
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I hope to God everyone is well.
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Helicopter crashes on golf course
A helicopter has crashed on part of a golf course in Derbyshire.
The private aircraft came down on Ormonde Fields Golf Club near the A610 in Codnor at about 1535 BST on Tuesday.
The 65-year-old pilot, who lives locally, walked away from the crash and has been taken to the Derbyshire Royal Infirmary with slight injuries.
Police, fire service and paramedics were called to the scene and the area around the craft was cordoned off. There may be delays on nearby roads.
Initial inquiries will be carried out by Derbyshire Police but an investigation into the circumstances of the incident will be carried out by the Air Accidents Investigation Bureau.

BBC DERBY
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BBC News have also just released a photo to go along with the story above:




A quick search for *BPN on G-INFO produced a (relatively) locally based aircraft:

G-BBPN, ENSTROM F-28A-UK


Glad to hear that there were no serious injuries.
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looks like he is only a few hundred yards from home if thats the one not seen it flying about i only live 3 air mins away hope he is ok
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levo,

I don't mean to sound like a tw@t, but your posts would be much easier to read if you used punctuation.
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unfortunate

You think an R22 is worse? Don't like Enstroms, never did. A horrible aircraft. Hope all is well with the pilot. As far as I know they call the Enstrom the widow maker...anyone out there to confirm this?
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Old 12th Jun 2007, 21:15
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Angel

Knew (and Flew occasionally) G-BBPN in the early 1980's when it was used as a training aircraft Oxford Air Training School CSE Oxford.. sad to see a classic come to grief.
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no one has ever died in a enstrom in the uk
so not many widows made in the uk but the r 22/44 that may be another question
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Alouette , your confused, your refering to the R22!!!
no one ever been killed in a Enstrom in UK !!!!
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The Enstrom thingy

Well, then I stand corrected,...still the guy was lucky. All said.
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Sorry, but when I look at the maths of ratio to machines used Robbo/Enstrom, I think you have more chance of having a bad moment in an Enstrom. Thats the maths viewpoint. If Enstroms were as numerous as Robbo's there would be a lot more headlines going on the current ratios, and the beauty of numbers are, they dont lie.

The flying viewpoint I can't give, only having flown Robbo's. So all Robby haters, feel free to tear me to shreds based on this admission.
 
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Anyway, amongst the "I love Robbos/I hate Enstroms" chatter I wish the pilot well.

(P.S. Us ATCOs hate you both.... anything with a ground speed of less than 90 kts is pants!!!!)

TAKEs COVER!!!!
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Old 12th Jun 2007, 22:27
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Like we ever tell you when we're in your control zone's anyways









(Joke JOKE, okay! We're not microlight pilots fer gawds sake!)
 
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Glad the pilot's OK.
Re:Robbie vs Enstrom. I have flown both types quite a bit. Both are quite capable of catching one out. The big drawback of the Enstrom is the lack of power coupled to a high inertia rotor system. This particular failing will catch up with you while manouvering near the ground resulting in low energy crashes if your not careful. Generally the people walk away from an Enstrom crash. On the positive side they dont get carb ice and dont mast bump. Do I feel safer in one or other? Not really but I prefer the 28A to an R22.
It looks like BBPN is scrap. A great shame.
I hope if any of it is OK for salvage it will be saved. Some 28A bits are getting hard to get now.
Up & Away, you are right. The 28A is a classic. One that seems to be getting very rare now. We've lost 2 in the last 3 years. (The last one ran out of fuel )
Down to about a dozen in the UK now. edit (9 that will fly)

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Old 12th Jun 2007, 23:08
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Anyway, amongst the "I love Robbos/I hate Enstroms" chatter I wish the pilot well. (P.S. Us ATCOs hate you both.... anything with a ground speed of less than 90 kts is pants!!!!)
Alan, I don't believe you said that; every time we speak you keep telling me to slow down......
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Old 12th Jun 2007, 23:12
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and the beauty of numbers are, they dont lie.
You're obviously not an accountant

Us ATCOs hate you both.... anything with a ground speed of less than 90 kts is pants!!!!
...hmmm - my car fits the bill; my helicopter doesn't.

Hope the pilot is OK - in the end, that's all that matters.

Cheers

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Anyway, amongst the "I love Robbos/I hate Enstroms" chatter I wish the pilot well. (P.S. Us ATCOs hate you both.... anything with a ground speed of less than 90 kts is pants!!!!) Alan, I don't believe you said that; every time we speak you keep telling me to slow down......

Jesus, say again?? not getting the wool in your eyes there are you young fella??
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Love to hear a sensible comment once in a while from Alan M..... Marvellous.... hope your well chap.

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Jesus, say again?? not getting the wool in your eyes there are you young fella??
It's not 90 kts he's getting me to slow down from.
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