Philip is a friend of mine and nothing to do with Chelsea Board apart from supporting them. Just trying to find out who else was on board and hope my fears are not realised. Worrying times
News of the wreckage has just been confirmed on the BBC website 
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/6614347.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/6614347.stm
"Rescue services searching for a missing helicopter, believed to be carrying a wealthy Chelsea FC supporter, have found a crash site in Cambridgeshire.
Police said wreckage has been found between Wansford and Duddington, west of Peterborough,"
(Close to RAF Wittering, and on 'finals' to the home destination.)
Police said wreckage has been found between Wansford and Duddington, west of Peterborough,"
(Close to RAF Wittering, and on 'finals' to the home destination.)
Wreckage found. Reports on websites of Flight International, Bloomberg, London Evening Standard and others
The pilot has been named as Stephen Holdich, co-owner of operating company Atlas Helicopters.
The passengers named are Phillip Carter and Jonathan Waller.
The passengers named are Phillip Carter and Jonathan Waller.
From the sky website ( remember it is sky )
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'Chelsea's vice-chairman Matthew Harding and four other men were killed in October 1996 as they returned from a Bolton Wanderers match.
They had been travelling on a Twin Squirrel helicopter, which plummeted to earth in farmland near Middlewich, Cheshire, following a Coca Cola Cup tie.
An inquest jury returned verdicts of accidental death after hearing that the pilot might have become disorientated flying at night with no autopilot, while trying to map-read and talk to air traffic control.'
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Interesting last paragraph there ??????
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'Chelsea's vice-chairman Matthew Harding and four other men were killed in October 1996 as they returned from a Bolton Wanderers match.
They had been travelling on a Twin Squirrel helicopter, which plummeted to earth in farmland near Middlewich, Cheshire, following a Coca Cola Cup tie.
An inquest jury returned verdicts of accidental death after hearing that the pilot might have become disorientated flying at night with no autopilot, while trying to map-read and talk to air traffic control.'
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Interesting last paragraph there ??????
Nice one ding dong, have some respect for those that have lost. Speculation like that is really not welcome right now. I hope when your end comes people will show a little more courtesy.
As for Boeingmel, I take you are in fact referring to Steve Holdich the pilot. He was the co-director of Atlas helicopters and one of the nicest most enthusiastic people you could meet in this industry.
As for Boeingmel, I take you are in fact referring to Steve Holdich the pilot. He was the co-director of Atlas helicopters and one of the nicest most enthusiastic people you could meet in this industry.
Condolences to the family. Another sad day in aviation.
Anyone know what the WX was doing at the time?
Anyone know what the WX was doing at the time?
of Matthew Harding the AAIB said,
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The most striking clues to the cause of this accident arise from the commander's declarations that he had penetrated IMC conditions coupled with the evidence of three eye witnesses who saw the helicopter in a steep nose-up pitch attitude. These clues indicate loss of control in flight conditions
which the neither the pilot nor the helicopter were qualified to enter. However, the local weather was described as fine by the witnesses who saw the helicopter's lights throughout its final manoeuvres and no-one reported seeing it penetrate cloud. Moreover, the accident might have been avoided if the helicopter had been recovered correctly from this abnormal manoeuvre.
This analysis leads to the conclusion that IMC penetration was a perception rather than a fact and explains the probable reasons for the mis-perception and unsuccessful recoveryfrom the nose-high manoeuvre.
Weather, the last I saw of it (11pm) and from 10 miles away, was patchy high cloud with a very bright full moon. Wittering is very close and will have exact details.The most striking clues to the cause of this accident arise from the commander's declarations that he had penetrated IMC conditions coupled with the evidence of three eye witnesses who saw the helicopter in a steep nose-up pitch attitude. These clues indicate loss of control in flight conditions
which the neither the pilot nor the helicopter were qualified to enter. However, the local weather was described as fine by the witnesses who saw the helicopter's lights throughout its final manoeuvres and no-one reported seeing it penetrate cloud. Moreover, the accident might have been avoided if the helicopter had been recovered correctly from this abnormal manoeuvre.
This analysis leads to the conclusion that IMC penetration was a perception rather than a fact and explains the probable reasons for the mis-perception and unsuccessful recoveryfrom the nose-high manoeuvre.
the weather from Wittering
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EGXT 012350Z AUTO 02011KT 5000NDV BR OVC002/// 08/07 Q1017=
EGXT 012250Z 02011KT 3500 HZ BKN002 08/07 Q1017=
EGXT 012150Z 03010KT 5000 HZ BKN004 09/08 Q1017=
EGXT 020050Z AUTO 02011KT 5000NDV BR BKN002/// 07/07 Q1017=
EGXT 012350Z AUTO 02011KT 5000NDV BR OVC002/// 08/07 Q1017=
EGXT 012250Z 02011KT 3500 HZ BKN002 08/07 Q1017=
EGXT 012150Z 03010KT 5000 HZ BKN004 09/08 Q1017=
worked with holditch many times, condolences to all concerned, another sad day in the history of aviation, rip steve
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Nice one ding dong, have some respect for those that have lost. Speculation like that is really not welcome right now. I hope when your end comes people will show a little more courtesy.
Nice one ding dong, have some respect for those that have lost. Speculation like that is really not welcome right now. I hope when your end comes people will show a little more courtesy.
I apologise if you thought i was was not being respectful mountjoy that was not the case. I was merely pointing to a media report on the event.
And in the event of my end, well ... time will tell.
BBC reporting "and his teenage son".
Now that is sad . . .
Earlier reports were suggesting 'low cloud'.
How low is 'low'?
Now that is sad . . .
Earlier reports were suggesting 'low cloud'.
How low is 'low'?