Firemen and Bumbi Buckets
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Firemen and Bumbi Buckets
Found this brave men struggling with a bucket under a Super Puma.
http://www.johannes-leckebusch.de/Fo...164aus_tif.htm
http://www.johannes-leckebusch.de/Fo...W_0184_tif.htm
http://www.johannes-leckebusch.de/Fo...177aus_tif.htm
Impressive!
http://www.johannes-leckebusch.de/Fo...164aus_tif.htm
http://www.johannes-leckebusch.de/Fo...W_0184_tif.htm
http://www.johannes-leckebusch.de/Fo...177aus_tif.htm
Impressive!
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From: on a HEMS base
Of course! It's a SA 330. In my mind it was clear a Super P. after i heard the germans sold all their 330 to HELOG. But may be older pics.
Last edited by Quichotte; 18th March 2007 at 19:38.
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From: Germany
Hi,
went through the pictures - seems there was a real fire somewhere in the mountains.
Just wondering about the procedure so.
I would taken a chainsaw and have cut some trees at the smal river, where the fireman got the water.
The helicoptercrews could have picked the water on their own - much faster and with less risk for all involved....
Greetings "Flying Bull"
went through the pictures - seems there was a real fire somewhere in the mountains.
Just wondering about the procedure so.
I would taken a chainsaw and have cut some trees at the smal river, where the fireman got the water.
The helicoptercrews could have picked the water on their own - much faster and with less risk for all involved....
Greetings "Flying Bull"
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From: Somewhere, Over the Rainbow
Shoulda talked to the Czechs to see how its done!
http://www.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!/open.file/1157376/L/
Looks like the pilot in the Puma had a bit of trouble keeping the bucket up. A few of our crews trained like that with the local FD and said it was about 6 inches of vertical leeway, 2 feet of lateral leeway, or you were watering the grass.
-Mike
http://www.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!/open.file/1157376/L/
Looks like the pilot in the Puma had a bit of trouble keeping the bucket up. A few of our crews trained like that with the local FD and said it was about 6 inches of vertical leeway, 2 feet of lateral leeway, or you were watering the grass.
-Mike
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From: all over
If the best one can do is to belly hook a bucket onto a Puma then maybe one should not be fighting fires.
I just goes to show, just because you fly a big machine it doesn't mean you are good at the job you have been tasked to do.
Choppergod has spoken.
I just goes to show, just because you fly a big machine it doesn't mean you are good at the job you have been tasked to do.
Choppergod has spoken.
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My Pedant mode on. 
Bumbi or Bambi? If AgustaWestland found Bumbi is correct, also Quichotte is on the right way.
See Fire Fighting
http://www.agustawestland.com/produc...?id_product=14
Here we can buy a "Bumbi"
http://www.alibaba.com/catalog/10920..._fighting.html
Bumbi or Bambi? If AgustaWestland found Bumbi is correct, also Quichotte is on the right way.See Fire Fighting
http://www.agustawestland.com/produc...?id_product=14
Here we can buy a "Bumbi"
http://www.alibaba.com/catalog/10920..._fighting.html
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From: Variable
kjw57
Just found this thread again. I confess, I only dipped out of a pumpkin for the first time last year and I found it to be a stressful exercise, especially when in a chain with Skycranes, S-58's, Vertols and a bunch of Hueys all waiting their turn. Tends to increase the concentration levels and thankfully I had done a bit of long-line before, I really felt sorry for the guys spending 2 minutes or longer trying to get the bucket into the pumpkin. It is not always easy work.
Just found this thread again. I confess, I only dipped out of a pumpkin for the first time last year and I found it to be a stressful exercise, especially when in a chain with Skycranes, S-58's, Vertols and a bunch of Hueys all waiting their turn. Tends to increase the concentration levels and thankfully I had done a bit of long-line before, I really felt sorry for the guys spending 2 minutes or longer trying to get the bucket into the pumpkin. It is not always easy work.
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John
Yes, it can get interesting on fires. Actually I find the support ops easier because you are on your own and can take your time, there is self-inflicted pressure in the daisy chain to get the bucket into the tank on the first try. I love the work, meet some great people and its always challenging, what more can you ask for? Would love to try it in Aus sometime.
Yes, it can get interesting on fires. Actually I find the support ops easier because you are on your own and can take your time, there is self-inflicted pressure in the daisy chain to get the bucket into the tank on the first try. I love the work, meet some great people and its always challenging, what more can you ask for? Would love to try it in Aus sometime.
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From: Oman
Why on earth don't they use a longline?
Did some firefighting in Greece in '93 with a British International Super Puma using 100' longline and a bubble window on the left side.
It would get rid of their downwash problem.
Did some firefighting in Greece in '93 with a British International Super Puma using 100' longline and a bubble window on the left side.
It would get rid of their downwash problem.
