Will it ever end??
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Will it ever end??
Just passed the JAA CPL yesterday and was going to start the JAA Flight instructor conversion (Have FAA CFI) having put all remaining funds into the pot to complete at the end of april. During my post flight test relaxing beer I suddenly realised that even though I have 200 Hours R22, 31 hours B206, 22 hours R44 and 37 hours SW300Cbi I will not be able to work or teach at home (UK) unless its in a SW300 Cbi because I gained that type rating with my CPL course and LST. So after the 5 years of flying to build the hours and sitting the ATPL exams I must once again go back to the 2nd and 3rd jobs to earn the money to pay for the type ratings. 5 hours for each type and yes you guessed it...written exams and a flight test for each one.
When are the CAA going to float on the stock exchange? I would buy (Not that I will have any spare cash) because they have a licence to make money at every single turn!
Is it this bad in other countries outside the UK? Yes I know the FAA doesnt need type ratings but the lack of green card stuffs the work prospects there.
Just venting yet more frustration but at least ive got the pass at long last!
Flash.
When are the CAA going to float on the stock exchange? I would buy (Not that I will have any spare cash) because they have a licence to make money at every single turn!
Is it this bad in other countries outside the UK? Yes I know the FAA doesnt need type ratings but the lack of green card stuffs the work prospects there.
Just venting yet more frustration but at least ive got the pass at long last!
Flash.
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You have proven you can make it this far. Keep looking forward, your on your way.
Trust me you will be taking tests and checkrides until you retire. I work for two sometimes three companies every year. For me that means writtens for all companies and checkrides in all the different aircraft........Fortunately its in the states so we dont have to fly around with a library full of rules. Im betting that if someone in the UK really does some research they can find a rule that says you can and one that says you cant for the same item somewhere.
Trust me you will be taking tests and checkrides until you retire. I work for two sometimes three companies every year. For me that means writtens for all companies and checkrides in all the different aircraft........Fortunately its in the states so we dont have to fly around with a library full of rules. Im betting that if someone in the UK really does some research they can find a rule that says you can and one that says you cant for the same item somewhere.
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Well done, long time no see.
By your figures you are not too short of 300hrs, build time on cheapest aircraft and then this heli training com,should at least reduce some of those to 3hrs training + test. Your aeroplane experience may also count. Sorry for not being more specific but I cannot open acrobat documents on this public PC in the hotel i am staying in at the moment.
http://www.caa.co.uk/docs/33/1_2005_H.pdf
Drop me a pm with details of where you did it in the end if you don't mind.
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Well done, long time no see.
By your figures you are not too short of 300hrs, build time on cheapest aircraft and then this heli training com,should at least reduce some of those to 3hrs training + test. Your aeroplane experience may also count. Sorry for not being more specific but I cannot open acrobat documents on this public PC in the hotel i am staying in at the moment.
http://www.caa.co.uk/docs/33/1_2005_H.pdf
Drop me a pm with details of where you did it in the end if you don't mind.
Kind regards
Gary Spender
AKA VeeAny, using a temporary id from abroad coz i am too dumb to remember my password.
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You are more likely in the UK to get a job with 400 hours as an instructor than pipeline!
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Whirls
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Thanks everyone...kind words and rousing suggestions!
"The controller" I was aware of the requirements but unfortunately I was mis-informed by others about requirements. I was told that if you have time on type already that it would only require a check ride for each type with less than 25 hours. which seems logical as I have already flown and survived in the type for at leat 25 hours. It seemed logical. Having over 200 hours in a R22 and having to be re-taught and tested seems very extreme to me. But like B Sousa says....Ive got this far so its just head down and keep walking towards the goal.
THe reason I am trying for the FI conversion is that I do actually have a position waiting for me part time at a local school. They fly R22 and R44 but there is also some work around for 206. The Instructing will be more regular but the 206 will pay more.
I am starting my B206 type rating tomorrow and I am looking forward to flying and "Being taught properly" because the CAA must do it differently to the rest of the world..
I cant wait to see what the R22 can do with a type rating onboard as opposed to a FAA CPL/CFI........!
Thanks everyone!!!
Flash
"The controller" I was aware of the requirements but unfortunately I was mis-informed by others about requirements. I was told that if you have time on type already that it would only require a check ride for each type with less than 25 hours. which seems logical as I have already flown and survived in the type for at leat 25 hours. It seemed logical. Having over 200 hours in a R22 and having to be re-taught and tested seems very extreme to me. But like B Sousa says....Ive got this far so its just head down and keep walking towards the goal.
THe reason I am trying for the FI conversion is that I do actually have a position waiting for me part time at a local school. They fly R22 and R44 but there is also some work around for 206. The Instructing will be more regular but the 206 will pay more.
I am starting my B206 type rating tomorrow and I am looking forward to flying and "Being taught properly" because the CAA must do it differently to the rest of the world..
I cant wait to see what the R22 can do with a type rating onboard as opposed to a FAA CPL/CFI........! Thanks everyone!!!
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Very well done!! Good job!!!
I have now actually just got started on the BGS modular program! Not looking forward to this... However, I am planning a trip home in the 1st wek of April for a visit to BGS.
Take care, good work with the studies..
Darren
Very well done!! Good job!!!
I have now actually just got started on the BGS modular program! Not looking forward to this... However, I am planning a trip home in the 1st wek of April for a visit to BGS.
Take care, good work with the studies..
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According to 5th amendment of JAR-FCL 2, you only need 250 hrs helicopter and 100 PIC to be a FI(H).
JAR–FCL 2.320A FI(H) on page 126 in JAR-FCL 2
hurreyy to amendments
JAR–FCL 2.320A FI(H) on page 126 in JAR-FCL 2
hurreyy to amendments
