Robinson R66 (merged threads)
head impact
"NOTE 6. Determination for compliance with 27.562(c)(5), Head Impact Criteria (HIC) must be performed for any equipment installed in the cockpit or passenger cabin."
(d) An alternate approach that achieves an equivalent or greater level of occupant protection, as required by this section, must be substantiated on a rational basis.
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R66 or Jet Ranger
I agree with "verticl freedom" and "Granny",,,,Jet banger all day long!
There was a N Reg jet ranger on e bay recently for £165k,,seemed a decent aircraft.
I also watched the Heli Air R66 N reg, N66NN i think was the call sign,,take off from Oban on Friday around 4pm, it departed straight over the water at 90 degrees to the main runway!
No floats and people sitting in back seats!
I trust the RR engine is fail proof?
There was a N Reg jet ranger on e bay recently for £165k,,seemed a decent aircraft.
I also watched the Heli Air R66 N reg, N66NN i think was the call sign,,take off from Oban on Friday around 4pm, it departed straight over the water at 90 degrees to the main runway!
No floats and people sitting in back seats!
I trust the RR engine is fail proof?
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It is usual for heli's to depart EGEO at 90 degrees (west) to the runway for noise abatement purposes. Especially if going West..
From the pages of the AIP
From the pages of the AIP
5. Helicopter Operations
a. All helicopters are expected to make approaches from, and depart to, the west to minimise environmental impact on airport neighbours, unless
weather conditions dictate otherwise
a. All helicopters are expected to make approaches from, and depart to, the west to minimise environmental impact on airport neighbours, unless
weather conditions dictate otherwise
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Red eye,,,,
Im sure the AIP will in now way overrule the ability to safely conduct a flight to and from the airport!
Couple hundred yards out to sea and couple hundred feet high, no floats, one engine, people in back seats,,,but im sure the pilot would have been able to safelly autorotate to land in the event of a failure?
Im not bleating on about it, really im not, i see things like it week in, week out, up and down the country, im sure we all do.
Im sure the AIP will in now way overrule the ability to safely conduct a flight to and from the airport!
Couple hundred yards out to sea and couple hundred feet high, no floats, one engine, people in back seats,,,but im sure the pilot would have been able to safelly autorotate to land in the event of a failure?
Im not bleating on about it, really im not, i see things like it week in, week out, up and down the country, im sure we all do.
5. Helicopter Operations
a. All helicopters are expected to make approaches from, and depart to, the west to minimise environmental impact on airport neighbours, unless
weather conditions dictate otherwise
a. All helicopters are expected to make approaches from, and depart to, the west to minimise environmental impact on airport neighbours, unless
weather conditions dictate otherwise
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Heli-Jock
So was the flight made safely?
How many things do you see like it actually crash?
Im sure the AIP will in now way overrule the ability to safely conduct a flight to and from the airport!
Im not bleating on about it, really im not, i see things like it week in, week out, up and down the country, im sure we all do.
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CHOP JOCK
Maybe the question should have been, "Could the flight have been conducted even safer than it was"?
Whats your point?
So was the flight made safely?
How many things do you see like it actually crash?
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What was YOUR original point? Was the R66 flight conducted in an unsafe manner?
The prevailing wind at EGEO is from the west and the runway is north south. Should he take off out of wind?
Why would the engine fail anyway?
An engine failure on 19 will drop a helicopter into deeper water (or an area that is not flat). 01 gives you a caravan park (OK if you are working for Top Gear).
Would the rescue boat have been able to deploy in time irrespective of the location of the landing over water?
The prevailing wind at EGEO is from the west and the runway is north south. Should he take off out of wind?
Why would the engine fail anyway?
An engine failure on 19 will drop a helicopter into deeper water (or an area that is not flat). 01 gives you a caravan park (OK if you are working for Top Gear).
Would the rescue boat have been able to deploy in time irrespective of the location of the landing over water?
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My point is if you see things that you think are dangerous happening week in, week out, up and down the Country and there are no accidents, then perhaps they are not so dangerous as you think?
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How many things do you see like it actually crash?
Whats your point?
How many things do you see like it actually crash?
Whats your point?
My point is if you see things that you think are dangerous happening week in, week out, up and down the Country and there are no accidents, then perhaps they are not so dangerous as you think?
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FAA Certifies Robinson R66 Police Helicopter
Had a look but couldn't see this elsewhere on the forum
http://www.robinsonheli.com/media/pr...rtified_pr.pdf
http://www.robinsonheli.com/media/pr...rtified_pr.pdf
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I flew the 66 Sydney to gold coast and back smooth cumfortable and roomy sat on 125-135 kts. Airspeed and smooth as. Used 80 ltr hr up and 81 lt hr home
how many aboard? These numbers seem a bit off to me.
w/ 4 aboard i cant get over 120 kts (nil wind) and the torque would be at about 78%, bringing the fuel flow at about 95 lts/hour. Normally i fly at 72% TQ that gives me 110kts 85lts hour.
Cheers
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I'm also getting an instrument error in my IAS at about 10% less than the true airspeed, seems a lot to me.
I have the non heated pitot on the 66 I operate, has anyone else experienced this?
I have the non heated pitot on the 66 I operate, has anyone else experienced this?
"The exhaust is directed somewhat downwards as it leaves the engine, but the underside of the boom, tail feathers and the tail rotor still get a fair bit of soot. Our aircraft are washed every day they fly, but we'll be painting a fair bit of that area dark to help keep them looking good."
Anyone else having this problem ? Is it something that should/could be fixed?
Anyone else having this problem ? Is it something that should/could be fixed?
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Does anyone have an idea as to how many R66's have been sold in the UK to date?
Is it doing well?
Robinson sales sometimes provide a glimpse of how the private helicopter market is holding up.
Is it doing well?
Robinson sales sometimes provide a glimpse of how the private helicopter market is holding up.
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The R66 is not EASA approved and there is some uncertainty if/when it might be.
I think the private helicopter market 'peaked in 2000-2008.
However, in the current climate, I would imagine most private buyers would be looking for 'pre-owned' bargains. So, a good indicator might be how quickly used MD500s, B206s, EN480Bs, EC120s, R44 RIIs, etc, are selling.
I think the private helicopter market 'peaked in 2000-2008.
However, in the current climate, I would imagine most private buyers would be looking for 'pre-owned' bargains. So, a good indicator might be how quickly used MD500s, B206s, EN480Bs, EC120s, R44 RIIs, etc, are selling.
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R66 fuel usage
To reply to the fuel usage in my R66
I mainly travel with 2 up and baggage
Sitting at66% 115 kts I use 81 ltr hr
I just flew back from tazzie a few weeks ago 5.1 hrs from flinders and headwind all the way
Heading up new coast had 20 kts on the nose so we sat 83'% all way from malacoota and burnt 84.7 ltr hr also 2 up this was 130 kts air speed
I do agree they do fly better with a heavier load on but speed and fuel don't seem to vary much
I mainly travel with 2 up and baggage
Sitting at66% 115 kts I use 81 ltr hr
I just flew back from tazzie a few weeks ago 5.1 hrs from flinders and headwind all the way
Heading up new coast had 20 kts on the nose so we sat 83'% all way from malacoota and burnt 84.7 ltr hr also 2 up this was 130 kts air speed
I do agree they do fly better with a heavier load on but speed and fuel don't seem to vary much
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Air speed ind
Yea my 66 has a heated pitot
The asi is not accurate and I'm told it is user error
Seems to b more effected with a cross wind
I have also had them take off the small reflectors on both sides at the static vent due to asi bouncing
The asi is not accurate and I'm told it is user error
Seems to b more effected with a cross wind
I have also had them take off the small reflectors on both sides at the static vent due to asi bouncing
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Reports of a third R66 fatal in Brazil at the beginning of the month: ASN Wikibase Occurrence # 152438.
This follows the two previous fatals in July 2011 (Colombia) and October 2011 (South Dakota).
I/C
This follows the two previous fatals in July 2011 (Colombia) and October 2011 (South Dakota).
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