Go Back  PPRuNe Forums > Aircrew Forums > Rotorheads
Reload this Page >

Supa Puma and small airplane collision in Austria

Wikiposts
Search
Rotorheads A haven for helicopter professionals to discuss the things that affect them

Supa Puma and small airplane collision in Austria

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 5th Mar 2007, 10:16
  #1 (permalink)  
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Canada
Posts: 60
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Supa Puma and small airplane collision in Austria

happend this Monday morning... apperently a swiss registered Supa Puma and a small plane collided near a ski slope.
http://salzburg.orf.at/stories/176231/ (German only)
flyheli is offline  
Old 5th Mar 2007, 10:19
  #2 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: The bush and back
Posts: 67
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
can anyone translate (or provide rough details) please?
wheatbix is offline  
Old 5th Mar 2007, 10:30
  #3 (permalink)  
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Canada
Posts: 60
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
puma crash

it happend less than 2 hours ago so there have not been many details released yet.

the current news talk report, that 6 people didn't survive the crash but they are still looking for survivors.

A Supa Puma from HELOG came from construction work in Kaprun and was about to approach Zell am See airport where a Katana just took off when the collision happend.
flyheli is offline  
Old 5th Mar 2007, 10:30
  #4 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Belgium
Age: 61
Posts: 494
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
ZELL AM SEE 05.03.2007

Several dead by GA-collision.

Probably six people are killed on Monday morning at the Schmittenhohe (ski area) near Zell am See in Austria in a collision between a helicopter and a small aeroplane. The cause of the accident is still un-clear.

It happened over the Areitbahn (a ski-lift) They collided over the Areitbahn and both crashed according to accident investigator Franz Michi.

One of the wrecks is burning, probably six people are killed in the accident, according to County Rescue Commander Gerhard Huber. Rescue parties are still looking for possible survivors.
HillerBee is offline  
Old 5th Mar 2007, 10:34
  #5 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: On the big blue planet
Posts: 1,027
Received 24 Likes on 12 Posts
The swiss Super Puma ( HELOG ) apparently left a water powerplant construction site in the mountains near Kaprun inbound the airfield of Zell am See and collided with a small S/E Airplane Katana, which just has departed this airfield inbound Linz. Obviously the pilot of the Katana and all aboard the Super Puma were killed in that crash.

skadi
skadi is offline  
Old 5th Mar 2007, 10:50
  #6 (permalink)  

Purveyor of Egg Liqueur to Lucifer
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Alles über die platz
Posts: 4,694
Received 38 Likes on 24 Posts
A Katana looks like this;

SilsoeSid is offline  
Old 5th Mar 2007, 11:01
  #7 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 51
Posts: 8
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Sound like it would be better for flyheli to give this a go as he is in Austria and probably speaks great German etc. but I'll give it a shot ... Please correct any errors.

---------------------

Sechs Menschen dürften Montagvormittag auf der Schmittenhöhe bei Zell am See (Pinzgau) bei einer Kollision zwischen einem Hubschrauber und einem Kleinflugzeug gestorben sein. Die Ursache dafür ist noch unklar.

Six persons may have been killed Monday morning in a collision between a helicopter and a small aircraft at Zell am See in Austria. The reason for the accident is still unclear.

---------------------

Das Unglück passierte oberhalb der Schmittenhöhe bei Zell am See. Oberhalb der Areitbahn im Bereich der Schoberalm stieß ein Sportflugzeug mit einem Hubschrauber zusammen. Beide stürzten ab, sagt der Pinzgauer Katastrophenreferent Franz Michl.

The accident occurred above the Schmittenhöhe near Zell am See (seems to be a ski resort). The aircraft collided and both crashed in the Schoberalm area according to accident investigator/expert Franz Michl (not 100% on Katastrophenreferent).

-------------------------

Eines der Wracks brennt, sechs Menschen dürften bei dem Unfall getötet worden sein, sagt Landesrettungskommandant Gerhard Huber. Die Einsatzkräfte suchen nach möglichen Überlebenden.

One of the aircraft burnt on the ground and six people were killed in the accident, according to rescue services commander Gerhard Huber. Rescue personnel are continuing a search for survivors.
Expat Flyer is offline  
Old 5th Mar 2007, 11:10
  #8 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: On the big blue planet
Posts: 1,027
Received 24 Likes on 12 Posts
The latest news are 8 casualties now, seven in the Puma and the pilot of the Katana.

http://salzburg.orf.at/stories/176231/

skadi
skadi is offline  
Old 5th Mar 2007, 13:32
  #9 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Europe
Posts: 406
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Use Google translate as following.

http://translate.google.com/translat...language_tools
Martin1234 is offline  
Old 5th Mar 2007, 14:04
  #10 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Canada
Posts: 1,852
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I used to teach skiing on that very slope where the accident happened. There was always a lot of helicopter traffic in that area, especially around the Schmittenhohe, the main mountain at Zell am See. Also a lot of GA, especially gliders.
rotornut is offline  
Old 5th Mar 2007, 17:39
  #11 (permalink)  
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Canada
Posts: 60
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
sad story

Some ski tourists filmed the crash and reported that the plane climbed after take off and flew right into the helicopter ... the chopper pilot reported even visual contact with the plane after he was informed that a small plane just took of the airport where the helicopter wanted to cross the airspace on the way to Germany.
5 Swiss, 1 French and 1 German were killed in the helicopter and one Austrian who flew the Katana on the way to Lienz.
http://salzburg.orf.at/stories/17623...00x224_big.jpg
flyheli is offline  
Old 5th Mar 2007, 18:57
  #12 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Canada
Posts: 1,852
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Could have been a lot worse. The report said there were around 8000 skiers in the area. Most of them would probably have been near the top of the Schmittenhohe where there's a hotel and a number of restaurants.
rotornut is offline  
Old 5th Mar 2007, 21:33
  #13 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Aberdeen
Posts: 29
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
From the wreckage pics on the Austria news site looks like D-HLOG one of their two 332C1 machines the other one was with UN in Dafar. I worked with Helog in 2000,01,02 and this would have been their permenant staff on the flight helper end of things at this time of year. Has anyone seen sight of a list of the fatalities yet?
Helitemp is offline  
Old 6th Mar 2007, 06:56
  #14 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: On the big blue planet
Posts: 1,027
Received 24 Likes on 12 Posts
It was the D-HLOG

slideshow:

http://slides.orf.at/sbg/index.php?a...id=4359&pool=3

One big part of the Puma-Wreck crashed on a skiing slope while on fire.
Big luck, that no skier on the ground was involved.

skadi
skadi is offline  
Old 6th Mar 2007, 13:53
  #15 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Canada
Posts: 1,852
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
For more pictures of the crash go to
http://www.salzburg.com/nwas/index.php?article=DText/w6u5eigztt*rveu0d$6b&img=&text=&mode=&section=&channel=nachr ichten
(Click on "Dieser Beitrag im Bild")
rotornut is offline  
Old 6th Mar 2007, 23:24
  #16 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: mostly in the jungle...
Age: 59
Posts: 502
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
One of the links says, that the Puma was enroute to Lofer after picking up the passengers at the "Gletscherbahen" station.
The helo pilot anounced the transition of the airspace on the radio and had the airplane in site when contacted by Zell/See airport.
It would have been worst if this happened over the town, very dense construction/population...

It seems Austria gets a lot of these freak accidents, just like the cable-car accident in 2005, where a concrete bucket hits EXACTLY on the cable....., from over 1000' ....

Condolences to all families...

3top
3top is offline  

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.