Sioux mounts a Scout!!!
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Sioux mounts a Scout!!!
Doe anyone remember an accident at Middle Wallop in the 70's when an autorotating Sioux landed on top of a Scout which had just completed an autorotation on to very wet grass and had slid into the Siouxs landing spot?
ericferret
ericferret
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Sioux and Scout
A local historian in Hampshire has a record of all the aircraft accidents in the county going back to when pontius was a pilot. I was looking for information on the accident to Gazelle XW850 in 1973. While looking down the list I noticed that the Sioux Scout attempted mating was not listed. I contacted the gentleman in question and he was unaware of this accident.
What would be nice would be to have a date and the serial numbers of the aircraft involved.
I think the gods were smiling that day as injuries were minor. The Sioux crew must have used up one of their nine lives.
What would be nice would be to have a date and the serial numbers of the aircraft involved.
I think the gods were smiling that day as injuries were minor. The Sioux crew must have used up one of their nine lives.
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Sioux/Scout mating
I was there at the time, I think, it was Captain W***** in the Scout, He was taking over as Lynx flight commander. He was on a Lynx conversion with me and decided that he shoud practise engine off landings in the Scout in case he ever had a double engine failure in the Lynx, Good move eh! God we laughed, he was not impressed. The DCFI and a foreign student in the Sioux were completing a IHT or FHT.
This was in September 1981.
Try posting this on the military site.
JB
This was in September 1981.
Try posting this on the military site.
JB
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Sioux Scout
The date being correct had me doing a little head scratching as I was out 3 years by then.
Then the the now loose accumulation of cells known as the brain , remembered that I was at Wallop around then getting a bit of Gazelle hands on which the CAA wanted before they would issue me a type rating.
If anyone can pin the date down and supply the serial numbers it would be appreciated.
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Then the the now loose accumulation of cells known as the brain , remembered that I was at Wallop around then getting a bit of Gazelle hands on which the CAA wanted before they would issue me a type rating.
If anyone can pin the date down and supply the serial numbers it would be appreciated.
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If I remember correctly [hmmmm] it was a Bell 47 G4A. I have no idea of the reg.
The crew were the DCFI and a foreign student [Quatar] and the comment overheard after the prang from the student to the DCFI "I s'pose this means I fail my FHT yes?"
The crew were the DCFI and a foreign student [Quatar] and the comment overheard after the prang from the student to the DCFI "I s'pose this means I fail my FHT yes?"
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Thanks for that 996.
If it was one of Bristows G4A's then there appears to be a choice of two.
G-AXKM which was de-registered as destroyed 17.10.85, the destruction could have been any time prior to the de-registration.
G-AXKT whos c of a expired 28.09.1982 with no reason given.
As 47's also have the ability to rise phoenix like from a data plate it is possible that it could be another aircraft, but I doubt it in this case.
Due to the amount of damage and the military useage of the aircraft.
ericferret
If it was one of Bristows G4A's then there appears to be a choice of two.
G-AXKM which was de-registered as destroyed 17.10.85, the destruction could have been any time prior to the de-registration.
G-AXKT whos c of a expired 28.09.1982 with no reason given.
As 47's also have the ability to rise phoenix like from a data plate it is possible that it could be another aircraft, but I doubt it in this case.
Due to the amount of damage and the military useage of the aircraft.
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Looking at my records I think it was G-AXKT (c/n WA.724 ex G-17-9) on 06-10-1981.
G-AXKM was destroyed at Redhill on 07-04-1983.
As an aside sister ship G-AXKO is still flying (based N. Ireland) I saw it late last year at Thruxton & it looks great still, G-AXKX is flying out of a base at Worksop I think, G-AXKU (now G-MASH) is based out of Elstree & G-AXKY is still on the UK civilian register, but currently without CofA.
Hope this helps.
G-AXKM was destroyed at Redhill on 07-04-1983.
As an aside sister ship G-AXKO is still flying (based N. Ireland) I saw it late last year at Thruxton & it looks great still, G-AXKX is flying out of a base at Worksop I think, G-AXKU (now G-MASH) is based out of Elstree & G-AXKY is still on the UK civilian register, but currently without CofA.
Hope this helps.
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Many thanks to all who took the trouble to post.
I had an email from the AAIB with their accident report today, confirming G-AXKT and the date of 6-10-1981.
Thanks to all
ericferret
I had an email from the AAIB with their accident report today, confirming G-AXKT and the date of 6-10-1981.
Thanks to all
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Yes, I was on the Board of Inquiry and I know all the facts, well as much as one can remember 30 years later.
I will gather up the data from the grey matter and give details tomorrow
I will gather up the data from the grey matter and give details tomorrow
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The AAIB report made me realise that the incident was more serious than I had realised, the survival of the 47 crew with minor injuries must have been a near miracle. Apart from landing on top of a whirling dervish a.k.a the Westland Scout the 47 also caught fire.
I suspect the grim reaper was on holiday!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I suspect the grim reaper was on holiday!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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G-AXKU (G-MASH)
To add to your notes, G-MASH is definitely at Elstree with a shiny new C of A, many replaced parts including a muffler kit; not forgetting some fab new avionics.
To add to your notes, G-MASH is definitely at Elstree with a shiny new C of A, many replaced parts including a muffler kit; not forgetting some fab new avionics.