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ericferret 4th Mar 2007 12:06

Sioux mounts a Scout!!!
 
Doe anyone remember an accident at Middle Wallop in the 70's when an autorotating Sioux landed on top of a Scout which had just completed an autorotation on to very wet grass and had slid into the Siouxs landing spot?

ericferret

996 4th Mar 2007 15:51

Yes I do, and have flown that Scout since, following repair. Why?

ericferret 4th Mar 2007 17:06

Sioux and Scout
 
A local historian in Hampshire has a record of all the aircraft accidents in the county going back to when pontius was a pilot. I was looking for information on the accident to Gazelle XW850 in 1973. While looking down the list I noticed that the Sioux Scout attempted mating was not listed. I contacted the gentleman in question and he was unaware of this accident.

What would be nice would be to have a date and the serial numbers of the aircraft involved.

I think the gods were smiling that day as injuries were minor. The Sioux crew must have used up one of their nine lives.

OffshoreHeli 4th Mar 2007 17:55

Sioux/Scout mating
 
I was there at the time, I think, it was Captain W***** in the Scout, He was taking over as Lynx flight commander. He was on a Lynx conversion with me and decided that he shoud practise engine off landings in the Scout in case he ever had a double engine failure in the Lynx, Good move eh! God we laughed, he was not impressed. The DCFI and a foreign student in the Sioux were completing a IHT or FHT.
This was in September 1981.
Try posting this on the military site.
JB
:ooh:

Letsby Avenue 4th Mar 2007 22:58

You're not 'press' are you?? :hmm:

ericferret 4th Mar 2007 23:24

No ex REME aircraft tech.

That date seems to late as I was out by then.

Cant see why the press would be interested in a 30 year old accident.

996 5th Mar 2007 04:49

'W' might have been the 'student' but the Captain of the cab was SB.

OffshoreHeli 5th Mar 2007 11:52

Scout/Sioux
 
Yes it was SB. The date is correct I have just checked my log book.

ericferret 5th Mar 2007 12:01

Sioux Scout
 
The date being correct had me doing a little head scratching as I was out 3 years by then.

Then the the now loose accumulation of cells known as the brain , remembered that I was at Wallop around then getting a bit of Gazelle hands on which the CAA wanted before they would issue me a type rating.

If anyone can pin the date down and supply the serial numbers it would be appreciated.

ericferret

Big Bucks Bernie 5th Mar 2007 12:52

As a side item, here is what the offspring should have looked like... ;)

ericferret 5th Mar 2007 13:37

Sioux Scout
 
Daddy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

996 5th Mar 2007 17:05

Posted elsewhere, Scout XP 908

ericferret 5th Mar 2007 17:21

Sioux Scout
 
Many thanks for that 996.

Any offers for the date and the Sioux serial number???

ericferret

996 5th Mar 2007 20:59

If I remember correctly [hmmmm] it was a Bell 47 G4A. I have no idea of the reg.
The crew were the DCFI and a foreign student [Quatar] and the comment overheard after the prang from the student to the DCFI "I s'pose this means I fail my FHT yes?"

ericferret 6th Mar 2007 17:38

Sioux Scout
 
Thanks for that 996.

If it was one of Bristows G4A's then there appears to be a choice of two.

G-AXKM which was de-registered as destroyed 17.10.85, the destruction could have been any time prior to the de-registration.

G-AXKT whos c of a expired 28.09.1982 with no reason given.

As 47's also have the ability to rise phoenix like from a data plate it is possible that it could be another aircraft, but I doubt it in this case.
Due to the amount of damage and the military useage of the aircraft.

ericferret

MPR 10th Mar 2007 11:41

Looking at my records I think it was G-AXKT (c/n WA.724 ex G-17-9) on 06-10-1981.

G-AXKM was destroyed at Redhill on 07-04-1983.

As an aside sister ship G-AXKO is still flying (based N. Ireland) I saw it late last year at Thruxton & it looks great still, G-AXKX is flying out of a base at Worksop I think, G-AXKU (now G-MASH) is based out of Elstree & G-AXKY is still on the UK civilian register, but currently without CofA.

Hope this helps.

ericferret 12th Mar 2007 20:32

Sioux Scout
 
Many thanks to all who took the trouble to post.
I had an email from the AAIB with their accident report today, confirming G-AXKT and the date of 6-10-1981.

Thanks to all

ericferret

Head Turner 13th Mar 2007 10:49

Yes, I was on the Board of Inquiry and I know all the facts, well as much as one can remember 30 years later.
I will gather up the data from the grey matter and give details tomorrow

ericferret 13th Mar 2007 23:15

Sioux Scout
 
The AAIB report made me realise that the incident was more serious than I had realised, the survival of the 47 crew with minor injuries must have been a near miracle. Apart from landing on top of a whirling dervish a.k.a the Westland Scout the 47 also caught fire.

I suspect the grim reaper was on holiday!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ericferret

bell47 18th Oct 2007 21:18

G-AXKU (G-MASH)
To add to your notes, G-MASH is definitely at Elstree with a shiny new C of A, many replaced parts including a muffler kit; not forgetting some fab new avionics.


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