Any one know of a AS350 to charter near London ?
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Someone is very touchy, all I said was whose AOC?
Or maybe I spent all that money on a CPL for no reason when I could have done it all on a PPL.
Lets keep to the subject and try to find the best legal and cheapest solution.
Or maybe I spent all that money on a CPL for no reason when I could have done it all on a PPL.
Lets keep to the subject and try to find the best legal and cheapest solution.
It would have to be a CPL in my view because the pilot is either paid ...or he gets free hours flying which is also a reward. I would not advocate doing any of this with PPL. I, also would like to think that you have learnt a few things getting your CPL to make you a safer pilot !
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Thanks for being a smartarse Bravo, do I know what an AOC is ......yeah thanks, not needed in this thread.
I'm actaully here to to learn, being ex services and not used to the 'civvy' way of flying and to get some useful comments/suggestions towards helping me and many others who may be thinking of doing or not doing a similar thing.
Thanks so far to all those who have helped
I'm actaully here to to learn, being ex services and not used to the 'civvy' way of flying and to get some useful comments/suggestions towards helping me and many others who may be thinking of doing or not doing a similar thing.
Thanks so far to all those who have helped
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Sounds to me like you would be covered by the 'motor mileage exception' see
http://www.caa.co.uk/docs/122/summar..._transport.pdf
Nigelh is quite correct in that an awful lot of flying is now being done privately, with CPL holder being paid to fly leased aircraft.
There will be a lot of people who say this is AOC work, I don't think it is and the suggestion earlier about lease an aircraft and fly it yourself whilst correct, I can't see the need to be a pilot to be 'the operator' most corporate bodies are not pilots but they do employ them.
Flying Lawyer is your man for this one once again.
V.
Sounds to me like you would be covered by the 'motor mileage exception' see
http://www.caa.co.uk/docs/122/summar..._transport.pdf
Nigelh is quite correct in that an awful lot of flying is now being done privately, with CPL holder being paid to fly leased aircraft.
There will be a lot of people who say this is AOC work, I don't think it is and the suggestion earlier about lease an aircraft and fly it yourself whilst correct, I can't see the need to be a pilot to be 'the operator' most corporate bodies are not pilots but they do employ them.
Flying Lawyer is your man for this one once again.
V.
I would suggest then, SST, that you start doing a lot of searching, both on here and in the real world. Some of your questions are betraying a worrying level of ignorance.
As you've already discovered with the VAT thread, there are some very long and detailed discussions on Rotorheads relating to these various issues. There was one not too long ago which covered matters such as the requirements for an AOC, payments in kind, CPLs and the like. Remember, the search function is your friend.
As you've already discovered with the VAT thread, there are some very long and detailed discussions on Rotorheads relating to these various issues. There was one not too long ago which covered matters such as the requirements for an AOC, payments in kind, CPLs and the like. Remember, the search function is your friend.
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SST,
If, as your various recent posts indicate, you are seriously interested in getting into the charter/corporate world then I think B73 is quite right.
Demonstrating such ignorance of the issues is not the best way of introducing yourself to the UK commercial fraternity. If you do get into this business, you may find it rather difficult to cast off the mantle of "that bloke that........". It certainly won't be difficult for the CAA to come and find you on the day, should they chose to do so!
Starshiptrooper or space cadet? I wish you the former.
P.S Try reading the ANO!
If, as your various recent posts indicate, you are seriously interested in getting into the charter/corporate world then I think B73 is quite right.
Demonstrating such ignorance of the issues is not the best way of introducing yourself to the UK commercial fraternity. If you do get into this business, you may find it rather difficult to cast off the mantle of "that bloke that........". It certainly won't be difficult for the CAA to come and find you on the day, should they chose to do so!
Starshiptrooper or space cadet? I wish you the former.
P.S Try reading the ANO!
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SST,
I hope that you have solved the problem or at least been given a quote that is within budget.
If you do specifically want an AS350 – I would suggest London Helicopter Centres at Redhill. They operate one/two AS350s. 01737 823 514
If you don’t need an AS350 – there are several alternatives and I think that we may need to have a look at Guards, because it may be a Twin only site.
I would suggest that if you lease a Twin Squirrel – and charge 15 people to shuttle them between Battersea and Guards Polo Club, it would be classed as Public Transport and therefore you would need an AOC.
In no particular order, I would suggest the following M25 / London based operators:-
Aeromega AS355 / A109 – 01708 688 361
London Helicopters AS350 / AS355 – 01737 823 514
CabAir AS355 – 0208 953 4411
PremiAir – AS355 etc etc etc 01895 830 900
Starspeed have an AS355N and some larger machines – I would recommend them but they may not be quite what you’re after? (01252 890 888)
If you would like to PM me – feel free but I would suggest you seek assistance from one of the above. If you’re fairly new to this business you would benefit from having an AOC company managing the whole project on your behalf. If you do have a 355 rating and an I/R by then – it maybe that you could fly on of the aircraft!
Best of luck – I hope it books!
XD
I hope that you have solved the problem or at least been given a quote that is within budget.
If you do specifically want an AS350 – I would suggest London Helicopter Centres at Redhill. They operate one/two AS350s. 01737 823 514
If you don’t need an AS350 – there are several alternatives and I think that we may need to have a look at Guards, because it may be a Twin only site.
I would suggest that if you lease a Twin Squirrel – and charge 15 people to shuttle them between Battersea and Guards Polo Club, it would be classed as Public Transport and therefore you would need an AOC.
In no particular order, I would suggest the following M25 / London based operators:-
Aeromega AS355 / A109 – 01708 688 361
London Helicopters AS350 / AS355 – 01737 823 514
CabAir AS355 – 0208 953 4411
PremiAir – AS355 etc etc etc 01895 830 900
Starspeed have an AS355N and some larger machines – I would recommend them but they may not be quite what you’re after? (01252 890 888)
If you would like to PM me – feel free but I would suggest you seek assistance from one of the above. If you’re fairly new to this business you would benefit from having an AOC company managing the whole project on your behalf. If you do have a 355 rating and an I/R by then – it maybe that you could fly on of the aircraft!
Best of luck – I hope it books!
XD
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XD hits the nail on the head....
As someone who speaks to all of the operators above, I would endorse his recommendations from an impartial ATC point of view.
I know pilots from all of the above, and they are certainly the guys with the experience to operate at a site near to LHR..... and to virtually guarantee delivery of pax.
Good luck either way - and PM me the date and we will see what we can do from an ATC side of things!!
P.S. ANY empty seats always welcome
XD hits the nail on the head....
As someone who speaks to all of the operators above, I would endorse his recommendations from an impartial ATC point of view.
I know pilots from all of the above, and they are certainly the guys with the experience to operate at a site near to LHR..... and to virtually guarantee delivery of pax.
Good luck either way - and PM me the date and we will see what we can do from an ATC side of things!!
P.S. ANY empty seats always welcome
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Thanks once again for your comments, its all becoming alot clearer now. My 'worrying level of ignorance' is starting to improve.
I'm not sure really how to respond to Bravo73 and PUP's posts
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I have learnt an aweful lot from this site and and I thank all those with the time (and patience) that have answered my questions and pointed me in the right direction
Thanks once again
I'm not sure really how to respond to Bravo73 and PUP's posts
!I have learnt an aweful lot from this site and and I thank all those with the time (and patience) that have answered my questions and pointed me in the right direction
Thanks once again
Having just reread this from the top, I'll correct myself it does sound like AOC work, for the reasons MBJ points out.
I'd missed the the bit about '15 of a banks clients'.
I Must try harder in future.
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I'd missed the the bit about '15 of a banks clients'.
I Must try harder in future.
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A little more courtesy to someone asking for advice wouldn't go amiss.
The rules about Public Transport & Aerial Work are notoriously confusing and confuse many people - including some people who claim to understand them.
Heliport
The rules about Public Transport & Aerial Work are notoriously confusing and confuse many people - including some people who claim to understand them.
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