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starshiptrooper 30th Jan 2007 10:01

Any one know of a AS350 to charter near London ?
 
Hi All,

Anyone know of a AS350 around the London area, looking to charter one in June for a corperate day to and from Battersea to Windsor.

Thks

AlanM 30th Jan 2007 10:10

Does it have to be a Squirrell???

Try Starspeed...... [url[www.starspeed.co.uk[/url]

(and everyone else can click on the "pilots" link....!!! :))

tomotomp 30th Jan 2007 10:44

Try PremiAir

or HeliAir both at Denham, or Cabair:ok:

Helinut 30th Jan 2007 16:12

Not 100% sure, but I think that Starspeed may not operate the single Squirrel.
Possibles are Cabair, Elite and maybe London Heles
Many of the "leading" London outfits don't charter singles much these days.
Why do you specifically want an AS350? For charter it would need floats for Battersea.

If you mean you want to hire an AS350 for self-fly, that is another question.

starshiptrooper 30th Jan 2007 16:34

First of all thanks for help/suggestions to anyone answering this thread. Initially I was looking at AS350 because I was going to fly it, but a little more research by me (which I should prob done before) has highlighted the fact that I need to be current on flying into battersea (though did 3 yrs ago) so the AS355 looks more likely (me not flying...already spoke to a few operators). I was really looking for the most economic way in getting 15 clients of a bank from Battersea to the Guards Polo club and also (on another occasion) from Battersea to the Goodwood festival.

Thanks so far one and all !

finals09 30th Jan 2007 21:15

From my experience for charters from battersea with Twin Squirrels, Premiair hard to beat with a Twin Squirrel, although Atlas also very competitive.

Larger helicopters are not always the answer, not that you would find one aircraft for 15 unless you charter a S61 from Ireland which will cost a lot !

As a very rough estimate need to allow at least £400 per head, more if at the weekend due to increased fees at Battersea. This is for a Twin Squirrel.

Would be cheaper if using single squirrels or Longrangers, but not a great deal. Speak to London Helicopter Centre if you need a single squirrel, very helpful.

May find it hard to land 3 aircraft at Guards.

Hope this helps, let me know if you need any more info

Rgds

F09

Flingingwings 31st Jan 2007 00:20

Have you considered speaking to Air Harrods? S76 and A109 could take your group I'd have thought

starshiptrooper 31st Jan 2007 15:36

Thankyou for your comments. You say £400 a head but I came out at less than £200. My thinking was twin squirrel at £1050 +vat for 1:30 ( 3 return trips from Battersea to Guards) Approx £700-£1000 landing fees gives a total around the £2500-£2800 mark, about £175 per person.

Any thoughts much appreciated ?

Helinut 31st Jan 2007 17:37

Why don't you just get some quotes? There are professionals who spend all their working lives estmating the costs of a charter :) The BHAB Handbook as all the main operators in it.

I suggest you start with those outfits that will need to fly least to do the job (i.e. close to Battersea)

If you have a fixed date or dates, don't forget to point this out, as prices vary depending upon the demand.

VeeAny 31st Jan 2007 18:07

If you really want a 350 then you could try Andy Crawford at Heliaviation at Blackbushe.

nigelh 31st Jan 2007 18:26

If you are a pilot and were happy to be the operator then you could lease an AS350 for around £650 per hour and pay a pilot, then it would be a private flight and not require floats. I would go to Leon at Helicopter Services at High Wycombe, they are very professional and very fair.

MBJ 31st Jan 2007 21:33

I really recommend you get quotes from a broker who will trawl the market for you and get it done by a professional operator. IMHO something in the last post sniffs of illegal Commercial Air Transport to me. The pax are clients not employees and it could therefore be assumed that there was a "valuable consideration" involved even if you don't get paid in used fivers.

LHC at Redhill have a B2 for charter. I wish there were more around.

ppheli 31st Jan 2007 22:55

Guards Polo Club strikes me as being very close to the Heathrow approach/departure path. Could operations in/out of there be cancelled at short notice if the wind is in the "wrong" direction? That could really UNimpress your clients....

Oogle 1st Feb 2007 05:53

That will teach you for asking pilots a question - 100 different answers!!!:ugh:

I have just picked myself up off the floor after you mentioned 700 - 1000 quid for landing fees!! :mad:

AlanM 1st Feb 2007 06:22

ppheli

We cannot normally refuse you entry to any LS in the LCTR.

However, if a LS does affect LHR ops, and departures or arrivals are stopped to get you in/out, then you can expect the same delay as the jets.

i.e. If aircraft are holding at BNN for 20 minutes, then so will you. This makes it fair.

Also, CAP493 (the Manual of Air Trafic Services) clearly states that SVFR flights are not to hinder IFR flights.

Jarvy 1st Feb 2007 13:15

It also appears to me that someone is suggesting that you do illegal public transport.
If your not flying then why not get some quotes on using a Longranger, plenty about.

starshiptrooper 1st Feb 2007 13:32

Dear Rotorheads,

Please explain to me what is wrong with this scenario.

I charter a AS355 acting as the operator (I will have type and IR by then) and fly the pax to and from wherever they want to go, Goodwood/Guards. It that illegal ? I will have my own limited company which I will bill the flight/ landing etc to the company taking the clients out.

Would appreciate a definition of illegal public transport, just to be on the safe side.

On the broker side of things why would I want to that ? Surely its lining the brokers pockets for something I can quite easily do.....and learn and an enourmous amount in the process.

Thanks for all your comments so far
:):):):D:D:D

Jarvy 1st Feb 2007 13:41

Let me be the first, whose AOC then?

Bravo73 1st Feb 2007 13:50

More to the point, do you even know what the acronym 'AOC' stands for?

nigelh 1st Feb 2007 13:50

For a start it would not be a charter of the 355 it would be a lease. This is possible but you need to know the rules. On this site you will be swamped by jobsworths saying you cannot do anything !! Most of the flying in this country is now done as private including as far as i am aware, even all of netjets, flexjet etc If they were all just mates of yours it would certainly be legal to lease and maybe fly it yourself , if you are taking business clients there could be an argument that there is a benefit, although i have never heard of anyone being taken to court on it. We have covered this before and hundreds of companies are out there still doing lease work in helicopters, planes and jets and it is ridiculous to suggest that they care less about safety.


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