Picture request, EC glass cockpits
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Picture request, EC glass cockpits
Albeit a humble request.
What I'm looking for is pictures of the PFD and ND primarily, but also CAD and VEMD displays. Ideally, I'd like fairly high-res pictures in different AP and nav modes, in different flight regimes, as well as pictures with warnings and failures presented, startup and such. Now, I'm not trying to kill you, I don't HAVE to know what the displays look like at VNE plus 50kt, that's not what I'm saying. I'm terribly grateful for anything you've got. Primarily the EC135P2, but most virtually identical in -135s, -145s and -155s, right?
This is for a simulator project. If I'm out of place asking these questions here, let me know and I'll get lost. What can I offer in return? Well, sadly not much. Anyone visiting Stockholm, Sweden will be treated to their respective favourite beverage (within reason), and optionally blueberry pie (or equivalent). Other than that, I'm up for suggestions.
Oooh, just though of something, videos! If anyone have videos fitting the profile, I'd probably start to cry...
Thanks!
What I'm looking for is pictures of the PFD and ND primarily, but also CAD and VEMD displays. Ideally, I'd like fairly high-res pictures in different AP and nav modes, in different flight regimes, as well as pictures with warnings and failures presented, startup and such. Now, I'm not trying to kill you, I don't HAVE to know what the displays look like at VNE plus 50kt, that's not what I'm saying. I'm terribly grateful for anything you've got. Primarily the EC135P2, but most virtually identical in -135s, -145s and -155s, right?
This is for a simulator project. If I'm out of place asking these questions here, let me know and I'll get lost. What can I offer in return? Well, sadly not much. Anyone visiting Stockholm, Sweden will be treated to their respective favourite beverage (within reason), and optionally blueberry pie (or equivalent). Other than that, I'm up for suggestions.
Oooh, just though of something, videos! If anyone have videos fitting the profile, I'd probably start to cry...
Thanks!
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Hi Mate,
I can send you most of the stuff by good old post. I have got extensive material but all not scanned in.
You can always send me an email if you like.
Cheers
WSPS
I can send you most of the stuff by good old post. I have got extensive material but all not scanned in.
You can always send me an email if you like.
Cheers
WSPS
Not sure what heli it's in, but it's a good shot of some a VEMD display. Sorry but i don't have the hi-res version.
And a few i got from the picture thread
1, a nice hi-res one here
There's quite a few in the gallery thread, but i don't have time to go looking
Whatever you find/receive please post up!
And a few i got from the picture thread
1, a nice hi-res one here
There's quite a few in the gallery thread, but i don't have time to go looking
Whatever you find/receive please post up!
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Awesome Huey
Hi Mupp,
This was posted by Avnx Eo on the photo thread titled "Not your father's Huey" It's not an EC, but pretty awesome. Hope it helps and he may be able to assist if you write him.
Good luck.
Frank
This was posted by Avnx Eo on the photo thread titled "Not your father's Huey" It's not an EC, but pretty awesome. Hope it helps and he may be able to assist if you write him.
Good luck.
Frank
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Not sure if any of these are any use (EC155)
See www.pbase.com/kbmphotography/motorsports and click on the ORIGINAL button below the image for full size.
Will try and get some more......
See www.pbase.com/kbmphotography/motorsports and click on the ORIGINAL button below the image for full size.
Will try and get some more......
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WSPS> PM sent!
Wheatbix> Are you sure these are Eurocopter? That first link looks like a Sikorsky to me, the other two like Agustas, but I'm no expert. Not the avionics I had in mind at least, but thanks for the effort!
Alan> Perfect! That's just what I'm looking for. Any more, of startup or something like that with lots of cautions or warnings, or turns, approaches, below DH, anything.
As for posting what I find, if someone sends me pictures and explicitly grants permission to post them here, I'll do so as soon as I find somewhere to host them. If there is any interest, I'll go through my bookmarks and post links to what I've found before coming in here begging for pictures.
Wheatbix> Are you sure these are Eurocopter? That first link looks like a Sikorsky to me, the other two like Agustas, but I'm no expert. Not the avionics I had in mind at least, but thanks for the effort!
Alan> Perfect! That's just what I'm looking for. Any more, of startup or something like that with lots of cautions or warnings, or turns, approaches, below DH, anything.
As for posting what I find, if someone sends me pictures and explicitly grants permission to post them here, I'll do so as soon as I find somewhere to host them. If there is any interest, I'll go through my bookmarks and post links to what I've found before coming in here begging for pictures.
Wheatbix> Are you sure these are Eurocopter? That first link looks like a Sikorsky to me, the other two like Agustas, but I'm no expert. Not the avionics I had in mind at least, but thanks for the effort!
To be pedantic, that's not a go-round from an ILS: it's the level off phase. On the PFD you can see ALT LOC and IAS, combined with the triangular 'bug' on the altimeter at about 290 ft. The aircraft auto levels at 65 ft but uses the radalt to predict an equivelant baralt ALT capture. In fact, you can see the aircraft is at 74 ft (figure in centre of ADI on PFD) and descending at 100 ft/min. Not only that, but the white line under the ALT caption, and the fact that the ALT bug is white, indicate that the pilot is changing the altitude datum; if the picture was larger you'd see his thumb on the collective rocker switch. When a datum is changing the bug flashes green/white (normally green) and a flashing white line underscores the axis that is changing; this is to alert the PNF and keep him in the loop.
I'm not sure why you would operationally want to be at 110 kts and 74 ft but hey ho!
Curiously, I notice that the CRHT (cruise height, radalt coupling)has been set at 490 ft: I suspect the pilot has mistakenly turned the CRHT knob rather than the HDG knob at some point in the flight.
I'm not sure why you would operationally want to be at 110 kts and 74 ft but hey ho!
Curiously, I notice that the CRHT (cruise height, radalt coupling)has been set at 490 ft: I suspect the pilot has mistakenly turned the CRHT knob rather than the HDG knob at some point in the flight.
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frankp> Your post didn't show up until now, am I the only one to experience that? Either way, as you say it's a bell, and I'm looking for EC, but thanks!
212man> Now, stuff like that is also very much of interest! Right now, I'm just trying to get fonts and proportions right, but when that's finished I have to get the logic down, so explanations like these are greatly appreciated!
212man> Now, stuff like that is also very much of interest! Right now, I'm just trying to get fonts and proportions right, but when that's finished I have to get the logic down, so explanations like these are greatly appreciated!
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frankp> Your post didn't show up until now, am I the only one to experience that? Either way, as you say it's a bell, and I'm looking for EC, but thanks!
When you finish it all post up a pic! Im sure it will be awesome and i look forward to seeing it
212man (AlanM):
I'd guess this is during instrument training as you would not see this configuration otherwise. Still it must be some kind of go-around as he has past his decision height/altitude and he won't be landing at that speed. Probably demonstrating a particular function of the higher modes.
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Regards,
Woolf
I'd guess this is during instrument training as you would not see this configuration otherwise. Still it must be some kind of go-around as he has past his decision height/altitude and he won't be landing at that speed. Probably demonstrating a particular function of the higher modes.
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Woolf
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Woolf,
I suggest you read my post again.
The 155 level off is a baralt (ALT) capture predicated on the radalt, giving a nominal level off at 65 ft. If you level off and then the ground rises, you fly into the ground. It's not a foolproof system; it's a first line of defence against stupidity.
The CRHT is a preset value much like ALTA, selected by a rotary knob next to the HDG select knob on the APMS. The value is selected and displayed (as in the photo) but the mode is engaged by pushing the knob. It is always a collective coupled mode with a non-changeable vertical speed. It is easy to reach down and turn the CRHT knob instead of the HDG knob. The FLM forbids the use of this mode in IMC or over land, so it's hard to see why else it would be set at 490 ft (it's also in the previous photo at an earlier stage of the approach). The radalt reading comes in at DH plus 500 ft; we can't see the DH figure as it's masked behind the cyclic (below the radalt tape on the ND).
I agree it's probably a training flight, showing the level off function.
I assume you are on the 225 or L2
Cheers
I suggest you read my post again.
The 155 level off is a baralt (ALT) capture predicated on the radalt, giving a nominal level off at 65 ft. If you level off and then the ground rises, you fly into the ground. It's not a foolproof system; it's a first line of defence against stupidity.
The CRHT is a preset value much like ALTA, selected by a rotary knob next to the HDG select knob on the APMS. The value is selected and displayed (as in the photo) but the mode is engaged by pushing the knob. It is always a collective coupled mode with a non-changeable vertical speed. It is easy to reach down and turn the CRHT knob instead of the HDG knob. The FLM forbids the use of this mode in IMC or over land, so it's hard to see why else it would be set at 490 ft (it's also in the previous photo at an earlier stage of the approach). The radalt reading comes in at DH plus 500 ft; we can't see the DH figure as it's masked behind the cyclic (below the radalt tape on the ND).
I agree it's probably a training flight, showing the level off function.
I assume you are on the 225 or L2
Cheers
Mupp,
PM me with an email address, I have a lot of EC135 CPDS PFD, ND, VEMD and CAD pictures. I also have a Powerpoint presentation explaining the autopilot and EFIS displays.
There is alot so will take a few emails.
I do a nice line in EFIS 40/50 pictures for the really sad collectors!
FNW
PM me with an email address, I have a lot of EC135 CPDS PFD, ND, VEMD and CAD pictures. I also have a Powerpoint presentation explaining the autopilot and EFIS displays.
There is alot so will take a few emails.
I do a nice line in EFIS 40/50 pictures for the really sad collectors!
FNW
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Corr blimey - there's me with my inaccurate description!!
Yes - it was a demo of a fly down and level off (80ft) down the runway.
We "went around" and climbed out seconds after the pic.
Pedantry is fine....!
Yes - it was a demo of a fly down and level off (80ft) down the runway.
We "went around" and climbed out seconds after the pic.
Pedantry is fine....!
212 - for info Woolf must be an L2 pilot as everything he mentions (LVL mode, radalt only displaying at CR HT + 500 etc) is all L2 and not at all 225. It seems he doesn't appreciate that there is life outside the L2!
HC
HC
Looking at his CAD and FLI I'd say that was the least of his problems!