Life Flight does it again
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From: darwin
Life Flight does it again
well done to name removedfor offering his bk + 5 pilots initially to timor with no problem and then last minute pulls out saying the members of board don't want bk to leave country.where would the 5 pilots come from? is that why you were advertising jobs? how about staying completely out of the commercial industry and stick to asking the public for money.
rodajunky, I removed the name (and had tossed a few of your previous probationary posts) because this forum cannot be used to make direct slams on people. If you want to do that, leave pprune.
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rodajunky, I removed the name (and had tossed a few of your previous probationary posts) because this forum cannot be used to make direct slams on people. If you want to do that, leave pprune.
You are warned, if you keep it up you will be removed, this is not a sandbox for retribution.
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From: darwin
yes it is true. and said i thought that too. could anyone comment on a charity organisation tendering for a month contract out of it's country with nothing to do with transporting ill children?
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this is interesting. perhaps the company should indeed in order to support the GA industry in oz relinquish itself from competing for commercial contracts. what in fact does is this charity's main focus? i may see an opportunity to support it financially to ease it's need to seek commercial contracts. this may well benefit the oz ga industry i imagine.
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From: ...in view of the 'Southern Cross' ...
......... LifeFlight (Melbourne) I think tries to do a excellent job in a very combative envoironment (politically)..... if there were less "vested interests" bitching about them that would be good.
Apart from the few who seem to have it in for the CEO for what seem to be purely personal reasons, LifeFlight do nothing wrong operationally that I can see..... they seem to run a pretty tight well structured operation. Their aircraft are EXCELLENT! Their standards are HIGH.
This constant "carry on" about the charity status thing is just another way of trying to "tall poppy" the organisation. You achieve nothing by trying to take them down. No commercial operator will step in to do their job ...and if they did, no doubt it would be at a much greater cost to the taxpayer, as well as for personal profit.
Get real and grow up and leave them alone to do their job.
RANT OFF!
Apart from the few who seem to have it in for the CEO for what seem to be purely personal reasons, LifeFlight do nothing wrong operationally that I can see..... they seem to run a pretty tight well structured operation. Their aircraft are EXCELLENT! Their standards are HIGH.
This constant "carry on" about the charity status thing is just another way of trying to "tall poppy" the organisation. You achieve nothing by trying to take them down. No commercial operator will step in to do their job ...and if they did, no doubt it would be at a much greater cost to the taxpayer, as well as for personal profit.
Get real and grow up and leave them alone to do their job.
RANT OFF!
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From: darwin
it is questionable that a charity can tender for lucrative commercial contracts over commercial companies just to keep itself afloat so it can maintain its REAL focus - the needy ones in the community. other respondents so far sound like diciples of charity company aka cheap way to run as a commercial company obviously make a living there. the aircraft was promised and 5 pilots for a month, then fell thru mysteriously and if u think this doesn't create some angst among commercial operators who would jump at chance to supply their aircraft then that is pretty arrogant and thoughtless. the contract was secured when there was no hope of the aircraft leaving the country or the pilots appearing from somewhere.
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this is interesting. perhaps the company should indeed in order to support the GA industry in oz relinquish itself from competing for commercial contracts. what in fact does is this charity's main focus? i may see an opportunity to support it financially to ease it's need to seek commercial contracts. this may well benefit the oz ga industry i imagine.
Much better that that aerial ping pong pansy turnout last night, fair dinkum those mexicans can't even block the sandgropers from stealing the limelight.
viewed you profile, 'jtravolta' and assume that indeed this is the one and only OZ home grown. That is certainly a magnificient gesture on your behalf and no doubt there will plenty of whorthwhile causes in OZ happy to accept your generosity.
You may or may not have read many threads on this subject relating to charities competing openly on the commercial market against those who don't enjoy the benefits of philanthropy and the charity's non requirement to return a profit. Rightly or wrongly, whether or not they may also be making hay out of depreciation and other business write-offs has also been questioned.
I think your comments demonstrate good observation even though it appears to be a maiden speech. I am not involved in any charity although in the past I have had the dubious challenge of having to compete on the commercial market against such subsidised opposition.
it is a pity that the thread opened in a volatile manner and may i express a welcome to you.
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From: ...in view of the 'Southern Cross' ...
Oh I think there is no doubt about that ...............
BUT as he is new to this forum and interested in the topic I think it only right to give him some background info that is not tainted with unfair inaccuracies!
Cheers
BUT as he is new to this forum and interested in the topic I think it only right to give him some background info that is not tainted with unfair inaccuracies!
Cheers
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Spinwing, you mention that it would be a much higher cost to the public if a commercial operator tried to do Life Flights job.
I don't know the ins and outs of it but how?
My intiial thoughts are, air craft costs will remain the same, crew costs will remain the same, I may have it wrong, but what will increase with a commercial operator?
The money still comes from the public via the Government. They would get the money through taxes taken from the public.
I don't know the ins and outs of it but how?
My intiial thoughts are, air craft costs will remain the same, crew costs will remain the same, I may have it wrong, but what will increase with a commercial operator?
The money still comes from the public via the Government. They would get the money through taxes taken from the public.
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From: Australia
“Just a guess, but I don't think jtravolta is who he purports to be. I suspect the real deal uses better punctuation and grammar.
Man, I hope I'm right. Otherwise, this could be embarrassing.”
Gerhadt
I don’t think so, it’s an anon forum after all.
For sure the real one in his professional life is a dead set perfectionist. Most who contribute to this forum I suggest are of like nature - in the cockpit.
That doesn’t mean at all that we are all magic perfectionists on the typewriter or around the bar fridge – yeah well, take that one anyway you like.
Only those few multi skilled individuals amongst us are more rounded right across the spectrum and are those to whom I will always pay compliments as do most male pilots.
For sure I thought about whether or not it may be an impostor before I posted first time and figured that eventually an impostor would blow it, there may even be two with the same moniker and of like preponderance.
I don’t think that the posted age has much to do with identity, look at the one who is 99.
The real one has been noted as a contributor to some needy projects here in OZ. I also believe that he has one undisguisable trait, as we do in that we are hopeless aviation addicts.
TET
Man, I hope I'm right. Otherwise, this could be embarrassing.”
Gerhadt
I don’t think so, it’s an anon forum after all.
For sure the real one in his professional life is a dead set perfectionist. Most who contribute to this forum I suggest are of like nature - in the cockpit.
That doesn’t mean at all that we are all magic perfectionists on the typewriter or around the bar fridge – yeah well, take that one anyway you like.
Only those few multi skilled individuals amongst us are more rounded right across the spectrum and are those to whom I will always pay compliments as do most male pilots.
For sure I thought about whether or not it may be an impostor before I posted first time and figured that eventually an impostor would blow it, there may even be two with the same moniker and of like preponderance.
I don’t think that the posted age has much to do with identity, look at the one who is 99.
The real one has been noted as a contributor to some needy projects here in OZ. I also believe that he has one undisguisable trait, as we do in that we are hopeless aviation addicts.
TET
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From: Aus, Europe & everywhere in between
What you guys DON'T know is that LifeFlight was approached by Hevi-Lift to see if they could provide their BACK UP BK117 aircraft for a few months.
They did not actively go out and try and get the contract - they were asked the question and their mangement thought it best not to.
If everyone would get their facts straight first, there would be alot less bandwidth taken up on un-necessary speculation.
They did not actively go out and try and get the contract - they were asked the question and their mangement thought it best not to.
If everyone would get their facts straight first, there would be alot less bandwidth taken up on un-necessary speculation.
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Oogle....
Thankyou .... that was exactly what I was referring to at the begining (of this thread) .... but I did not wish to mention the name of the COMMERCIAL OPERATOR who was requesting the assistance.
I wonder what "rodajunky" thinks of a commercial operator who requests assistance from a charity ???????? ........... nah I really don't care to know!
Cheers
Thankyou .... that was exactly what I was referring to at the begining (of this thread) .... but I did not wish to mention the name of the COMMERCIAL OPERATOR who was requesting the assistance.
I wonder what "rodajunky" thinks of a commercial operator who requests assistance from a charity ???????? ........... nah I really don't care to know!
Cheers