Life Flight does it again
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if the contract is secured first, then the pilots can be found and renumerated and then the charity can be kept afloat. only thing is it's important to get permission from the board members first i would think.
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Every post you've made since registering with PPRuNe and starting this thread has been on this topic.
You might want to join in other discussions, just in case people think you've got an obsession about Life Flight - if they haven't formed that view already.
Every post you've made since registering with PPRuNe and starting this thread has been on this topic.
You might want to join in other discussions, just in case people think you've got an obsession about Life Flight - if they haven't formed that view already.
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just hope this doesn't happen again.
LifeFlight battling against whingers!
Hello jtravolta, to view the operations/interests of LifeFlight, it would be best to visit their website at www.lifeflight.org.au , but this has not been updated with new pics or news as of late, and might not include their current operations to date, or their latest data on their updated capabilities of helicopters.
It may be best to contact them for news, as one of their committee members or personnel will fill you in on their operations for your interests.
It seems to me that reading over this topic that many details were left out regarding the job/task they were going to carry out in Timor. Obviously they were asked by a corporation or someone to provide a helicopter if it was possible, as I have not heard any tenders go out, any operators whinging why they missed out, or ?? Maybe LifeFlight's BK's were the only suitably decked out machines for the required task, that were free for use at the time?
Also, for how long, and what was the nature of the task. Details that are all missing here - so many should not jump to conclusions without facts. Maybe their mission did require the rescue of injured or sick people, and that the BK117 with all the medical outfitted gear would have been perfect? Speculation is wonderful - til it bites people on the arse when they realise that the true facts indicate that Australia could be helping out overseas people in a way.
I don't think LifeFlight is the problem - it is the few individuals out there that pursue rumours to stir the pot of anyone - when they personally don't even know the people at the base, or its right or wrong doings of a day. I don't know of all the people there, but can guarantee that their operation is run by qualified personnel & well equipped/ready/willing/able crew.
KP
It may be best to contact them for news, as one of their committee members or personnel will fill you in on their operations for your interests.
It seems to me that reading over this topic that many details were left out regarding the job/task they were going to carry out in Timor. Obviously they were asked by a corporation or someone to provide a helicopter if it was possible, as I have not heard any tenders go out, any operators whinging why they missed out, or ?? Maybe LifeFlight's BK's were the only suitably decked out machines for the required task, that were free for use at the time?
Also, for how long, and what was the nature of the task. Details that are all missing here - so many should not jump to conclusions without facts. Maybe their mission did require the rescue of injured or sick people, and that the BK117 with all the medical outfitted gear would have been perfect? Speculation is wonderful - til it bites people on the arse when they realise that the true facts indicate that Australia could be helping out overseas people in a way.
I don't think LifeFlight is the problem - it is the few individuals out there that pursue rumours to stir the pot of anyone - when they personally don't even know the people at the base, or its right or wrong doings of a day. I don't know of all the people there, but can guarantee that their operation is run by qualified personnel & well equipped/ready/willing/able crew.
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Mmmmm McGowans thread..... ??
Well I suppose there are some cost aspects about the operation that might remain similar if a commercial operator were to do that task.
However any "tax relief" that a charity has or can get, obviously help keep the operation cheaper to the end user in this case NETS (the Neonate Emergency Transport Service) attached to the Royal Womens Hospital. Donations such as subsidised fuel costs and such like also help, probably the best saving is that the any profit margin is saved back into the operation and help in fact subsidise the cost to the State Government and thus the Taxpayer .... and in this case the health and wellbeing of future taxpayers.
This has all been argued here before and seems to keep coming up because someone seems to have too much time on their hands and tries to "relight" a personal "bushfire" .......
In the end ...... you either believe in the benefits to your society of trying to do good by utilising Charities or Philanthropic causes.... or you believe that you should make a doller out of everything.
I am for the former!
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Well I suppose there are some cost aspects about the operation that might remain similar if a commercial operator were to do that task.
However any "tax relief" that a charity has or can get, obviously help keep the operation cheaper to the end user in this case NETS (the Neonate Emergency Transport Service) attached to the Royal Womens Hospital. Donations such as subsidised fuel costs and such like also help, probably the best saving is that the any profit margin is saved back into the operation and help in fact subsidise the cost to the State Government and thus the Taxpayer .... and in this case the health and wellbeing of future taxpayers.
This has all been argued here before and seems to keep coming up because someone seems to have too much time on their hands and tries to "relight" a personal "bushfire" .......
In the end ...... you either believe in the benefits to your society of trying to do good by utilising Charities or Philanthropic causes.... or you believe that you should make a doller out of everything.
I am for the former!
Cheers
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An interesting juxtaposition!
Heliport/Pedalstop
One wonders if JTravolta and Rodajunky need to be locked in the same room BY THEMSELVES for a time to ask and answer their respective questions?
TK
One wonders if JTravolta and Rodajunky need to be locked in the same room BY THEMSELVES for a time to ask and answer their respective questions?
TK
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all is ok. close call tho seeing the charity couldn't quite follow thru with it's promises as it did not have permission to make the promises in the first place.
all is ok. close call tho seeing the charity couldn't quite follow thru with it's promises as it did not have permission to make the promises in the first place.
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"In the end ...... you either believe in the benefits to your society of trying to do good by utilising Charities or Philanthropic causes.... or you believe that you should make a doller out of everything.
I am for the former!"
BTW you wouldn't happen to have a close cousin living in Adelaide would you rodajunky? goes by the nom-de-plume of 'vice-like.'
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"In the end ...... you either believe in the benefits to your society of trying to do good by utilising Charities or Philanthropic causes.... or you believe that you should make a doller out of everything.
I am for the former!"
its all words mate, which u r completely full of.
r u related to that bloke in Sale that topped himself?
I am for the former!"
its all words mate, which u r completely full of.
r u related to that bloke in Sale that topped himself?
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It is my understanding hevi lift approached airwork to fill in until they got a second machine servicable but airwork were not interested in such a short term arrangement so HL approached life flight who tried there hardest but could not find crews to do the job so pulled out.
However I do not think any organisation that runs its budget with donations from the public or funding from any government should conduct commercial operations - if it is legal then all operators should recieve the same subsidies to make it fair to all. This is not to say companys carn't bid for contracts that pay for themselves but they should not be able to run offices and staff on funding and be able to pick off work at the expence of the non funded operator.
However I do not think any organisation that runs its budget with donations from the public or funding from any government should conduct commercial operations - if it is legal then all operators should recieve the same subsidies to make it fair to all. This is not to say companys carn't bid for contracts that pay for themselves but they should not be able to run offices and staff on funding and be able to pick off work at the expence of the non funded operator.