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From: Chilliwack, BC Canada
Well thought and learned response C4, keep those professional comments comming 
C-RH, you can always count on me, and (evidently) you can always predict me too !
On a more professional note, it IS interesting that an Astar , or possibly any other multi-blade system prone to ground resonance, couldn't safely land there.
I wonder what the 407 would do in that situation? It is NOT prone to ground resonance in normal Ops, possibly due to the method of mounting the rear skid tube to the fuselage.
PS. I just had a beer with JR, fresh out of Eugene OR, and now settling in Canmore AB.
C-RH, you can always count on me, and (evidently) you can always predict me too !
On a more professional note, it IS interesting that an Astar , or possibly any other multi-blade system prone to ground resonance, couldn't safely land there.
I wonder what the 407 would do in that situation? It is NOT prone to ground resonance in normal Ops, possibly due to the method of mounting the rear skid tube to the fuselage.
PS. I just had a beer with JR, fresh out of Eugene OR, and now settling in Canmore AB.
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From: Canada
PS. I just had a beer with JR, fresh out of Eugene OR, and now settling in Canmore AB.
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From: Sandbox
Hey 407 Driver... Just because YOU like bell and not EC .. No need to get nasty!!! My opinion is BELL SUCKS.. note "My Opinion"..
Also, about being professional, you have no idea as to who I am so don't go shooting it off.. I am entitled to my opinion, just as YOU are..
Also, about being professional, you have no idea as to who I am so don't go shooting it off.. I am entitled to my opinion, just as YOU are..
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From: Canada
Play nice guys
Easy there,
407 does this just to get you all riled up. The folks in Canada have a much different sense of humour as they know who he is and we all have the highest respect for his talents and history in the business.
The Bell 407 has been kinder to him than the 350. He and I have lost a few great friends due to situations where the 350 proved it's old nickname as the Falling Star. I was lucky and had a great time flying her and would do it again in a heartbeat.
Of course, I have never had the pleasure of flying the 407...
Let's get this post back on the topic of pictures....
407 does this just to get you all riled up. The folks in Canada have a much different sense of humour as they know who he is and we all have the highest respect for his talents and history in the business.
The Bell 407 has been kinder to him than the 350. He and I have lost a few great friends due to situations where the 350 proved it's old nickname as the Falling Star. I was lucky and had a great time flying her and would do it again in a heartbeat.
Of course, I have never had the pleasure of flying the 407...
Let's get this post back on the topic of pictures....
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From: Chilliwack, BC Canada
Well C4, MY opinion differs, so, what do you want to do about it? I was merely joking with an old friend about a particular job that an EC couldn't safely do...due to the nature of their M/R design, and you come up with the childish remark "Bell sucks".
Why don't you start a new post as to exactly what you have against Bell, what models, the issues, a possible fix, and some of your experiences to back all of this up. After all, it is a "Professional pilots forum !
C-RH, once again you're displaying exactly why you were fast-tracked into that Captains seat, thanks for the words of support
Why don't you start a new post as to exactly what you have against Bell, what models, the issues, a possible fix, and some of your experiences to back all of this up. After all, it is a "Professional pilots forum !
C-RH, once again you're displaying exactly why you were fast-tracked into that Captains seat, thanks for the words of support
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From: 48 Deg South
For those that emailed me asking for some warbird images, here are a few to look at.
This is one of Peter Jackson’s (Lord of the Rings) toys. This was on its first ever flight. Chasing it in a Bell 206B.
Unique formation in Blenheim, NZ. Boomerang is based in Australia but came across for the airshow.
Shot this on a flight out of Oshkosh.
This is the Santa Monica Museum of Flyings Skyraider. I was in the back of a P-51 Mustang shooting this when about five seconds after this shot we had an engine failure and we had to dead stick into Lancaster airport.
This is a Kiwi based P-40.
This is one of Peter Jackson’s (Lord of the Rings) toys. This was on its first ever flight. Chasing it in a Bell 206B.
Unique formation in Blenheim, NZ. Boomerang is based in Australia but came across for the airshow.
Shot this on a flight out of Oshkosh.
This is the Santa Monica Museum of Flyings Skyraider. I was in the back of a P-51 Mustang shooting this when about five seconds after this shot we had an engine failure and we had to dead stick into Lancaster airport.
This is a Kiwi based P-40.
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From: N20,W99
Forgive me to be off the helicopter subject but . . .
This is my other mode of transportation, its mostly boring button pushing and little flying but its a nice change from the routine, sometimes nice to do some less challenging flying, just follow instructions and let the airplane take you there, nicer hotels, airports and air conditioned too!
Hawker 400XP, 450KTS Up to FL450
This is the cockpit of one of the ones I fly (or let the airplane fly me)
This is a shot I got from the web, I really like it because its almost dark and they apparently used a flash, Ned you should try this sometime for some cool helicopter shots!
Hawker 400XP, 450KTS Up to FL450
This is the cockpit of one of the ones I fly (or let the airplane fly me)
This is a shot I got from the web, I really like it because its almost dark and they apparently used a flash, Ned you should try this sometime for some cool helicopter shots!
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From: 48 Deg South
Shot at NAS China Lake when flying with the Dust Devils.
This is a unique shot. Took this from the front seat of the Mirage 2000-5 while flying inverted above the runway at the Paris Airshow.
Kiwi A-4s flying low level at 50ft on a maritime strike flight.
Downtown Sydney with RAAF Hornet and USAF F-15
PA State Police Koala doing great breakaway. That’s the main road under the nose.
This is a unique shot. Took this from the front seat of the Mirage 2000-5 while flying inverted above the runway at the Paris Airshow.
Kiwi A-4s flying low level at 50ft on a maritime strike flight.
Downtown Sydney with RAAF Hornet and USAF F-15
PA State Police Koala doing great breakaway. That’s the main road under the nose.
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From: SW England
Back again. From 212s over the Borneo jungle 2 years ago to Police NOTAR ops above the concrete sprawl of the UK's W Midlands. Our neighbours at Central Counties kindly let us have this shot they took of our 902 when we visited them last year. As always, huge thanks to John Eacott for making all this webspace available...
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From: Queensland Australia
C-RH
With reference your pic of the red and white 407 - what is the box on the side of the skids for?
Autorotate
Reference your pic of the Kiwi A-4 s - Do the RNZAF still own the A4s or have they been sold off? A friend and I were debating about it the other day. I thought they were sold off but perhaps I'm wrong about it?
Cheers
RR
With reference your pic of the red and white 407 - what is the box on the side of the skids for?
Autorotate
Reference your pic of the Kiwi A-4 s - Do the RNZAF still own the A4s or have they been sold off? A friend and I were debating about it the other day. I thought they were sold off but perhaps I'm wrong about it?
Cheers
RR
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From: Chilliwack, BC Canada
The "Box" attached to the 407's skids is called a Ski Basket. It is used to carry all manner of cargo, including Skiis, as a lot of our winter business is flying skiers. We leave it on all year round to increase the cargo capacity of the aircraft. There is a fair amount of drag with that out in the airflow, but we still can maintain a cruise speed into the high 120 Kt's.
Pictured is our older model basket, the current one is a bit larger !
Here's a Private Group out Skiing with the 407. The have just arrived at the bottom after a 3,000' descent.
And a couple of shots of some Class D fixed line rescue. We use a 2 hook system, a second hook is installed beside the aircraft's cargo hook, and a HYD line is run external to a release on the co-pilot seat. This staging area was located at 9,000'.
This particular rescue (previously shown on Page 11) happened at 9,500' across the Valley from staging.
Pictured is our older model basket, the current one is a bit larger !
Here's a Private Group out Skiing with the 407. The have just arrived at the bottom after a 3,000' descent.
And a couple of shots of some Class D fixed line rescue. We use a 2 hook system, a second hook is installed beside the aircraft's cargo hook, and a HYD line is run external to a release on the co-pilot seat. This staging area was located at 9,000'.
This particular rescue (previously shown on Page 11) happened at 9,500' across the Valley from staging.
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From: North Sea and elsewhere
Can someone explain coning angle to me?
Appropriate credit to Dave Edwards' unofficial Bristow Helicopters 50th anniversary website
http://209.196.171.35/.
Appropriate credit to Dave Edwards' unofficial Bristow Helicopters 50th anniversary website
http://209.196.171.35/.
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From: east ESSEX
Photo`s
A few photos from a miss-spent youth:
Whirlwind 10, a UK licence-built version of the S-55, with a single T-58/Gnome.
The t/rotor decided to go walk-about, taking the gearbox with it, and the Cof G went out over the nose; in formation at the time, after an engine change in the jungle!
Whirlwind 10.
I'd given my 1/2 frame camera to an Aus Padre to take a few pics on patrol, on a 5500ft mountain; the cloud closed in as he fell over taking this; I nearly fell off the pad laughing.
Tailless returns to base courtesy of a 66 Sdn Belvedere.
Bristol Belvedere, twin engined, each engine under each rotor, intakes at the bottom, as it was built to a Navy spec and then they declined, using Wessex 1's instead, so it was given to the Air Force. As you can see, I provided them with plenty of work. In Borneo it was known by the locals as the "flying longhouse."
Another one I prepared earlier- en-route to a carrier we had an engine run-down about a mile off-shore at about 12-1500ft; we made it to the beach but the nose dug-in and the tailboom got broken.I had about 6 pilots on board at the time and got lots of advice!!! Lots of thanks afterwards as nobody was injured.
This was a week after the t/r saga!!
This is HMS Albion with WX5`s who picked us up off the beach.
13 months later I had a compressor surge at about 30kts as we were approaching a 1500ft LZ, new pilot flying, I'm relaxed one moment then hands/feet everywhere, 180 turn and aim for the only hole I think we can reach, flare like f**&k between the trees and end up in a bog of broken trees, hence the broken t/boom!!
Day off for the troops; couple of crates, bottle of rum, pref Ghurka, gun, radio, shoot a few coconuts, pour in rum, lie on beach; and I went back this year and it`s still the same, except for a few houses and you have to buy the coconuts!!
There`ll be some more later -- Sycamore
Whirlwind 10, a UK licence-built version of the S-55, with a single T-58/Gnome.
The t/rotor decided to go walk-about, taking the gearbox with it, and the Cof G went out over the nose; in formation at the time, after an engine change in the jungle!
Whirlwind 10.
I'd given my 1/2 frame camera to an Aus Padre to take a few pics on patrol, on a 5500ft mountain; the cloud closed in as he fell over taking this; I nearly fell off the pad laughing.
Tailless returns to base courtesy of a 66 Sdn Belvedere.
Bristol Belvedere, twin engined, each engine under each rotor, intakes at the bottom, as it was built to a Navy spec and then they declined, using Wessex 1's instead, so it was given to the Air Force. As you can see, I provided them with plenty of work. In Borneo it was known by the locals as the "flying longhouse."
Another one I prepared earlier- en-route to a carrier we had an engine run-down about a mile off-shore at about 12-1500ft; we made it to the beach but the nose dug-in and the tailboom got broken.I had about 6 pilots on board at the time and got lots of advice!!! Lots of thanks afterwards as nobody was injured.
This was a week after the t/r saga!!
This is HMS Albion with WX5`s who picked us up off the beach.
13 months later I had a compressor surge at about 30kts as we were approaching a 1500ft LZ, new pilot flying, I'm relaxed one moment then hands/feet everywhere, 180 turn and aim for the only hole I think we can reach, flare like f**&k between the trees and end up in a bog of broken trees, hence the broken t/boom!!
Day off for the troops; couple of crates, bottle of rum, pref Ghurka, gun, radio, shoot a few coconuts, pour in rum, lie on beach; and I went back this year and it`s still the same, except for a few houses and you have to buy the coconuts!!
There`ll be some more later -- Sycamore
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From: Abu Dhabi
coalface:
Thanks for the link , good pics and info , especially the
"Bristow Achievements" stories.
sycamore:
wow! seven pics and 3 successfulls autos! 
I can recognize the Wessex , but what type are the other 2 helis?
Location? maybe something like Borneo?
Give us more photos please
Regards
Thanks for the link , good pics and info , especially the
"Bristow Achievements" stories.
sycamore:
wow! seven pics and 3 successfulls autos! I can recognize the Wessex , but what type are the other 2 helis?
Location? maybe something like Borneo?
Give us more photos please
Regards