Flying over London: Heli-lanes etc
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London Helipad
Having looked through previous post on helipads in London, Vanguard has been mentioned. Does anyone have contact details on them inc any others.
Thanks in advance.
Thanks in advance.
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Vanguard Holdings Ltd, 188 West Ferry Road, Millwall, London, E14 8RZ
Grid Ref: 372786, situated on the north side of the River Thames on the south-west edge of the Isle of Dogs, within ½ mile of Canary Wharf
08:00 – 20:00 hours on Weekdays and Saturdays – 09:00 – 16:00 hours on Sundays
Ofice hours
Mondays to Fridays, 0900 hours - 1730 hours, call Vanguard Head Office on: Telephone 020 8846 8000
http://www.pprune.org/forums/printth...threadid=90516
Grid Ref: 372786, situated on the north side of the River Thames on the south-west edge of the Isle of Dogs, within ½ mile of Canary Wharf
08:00 – 20:00 hours on Weekdays and Saturdays – 09:00 – 16:00 hours on Sundays
Ofice hours
Mondays to Fridays, 0900 hours - 1730 hours, call Vanguard Head Office on: Telephone 020 8846 8000
http://www.pprune.org/forums/printth...threadid=90516
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Thanks for that Sid.
No probs Kef, hope all went well.
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But then again there were thanks in advance I suppose!!!
No probs Kef, hope all went well.
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But then again there were thanks in advance I suppose!!!
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Now, where did that coincidence thread go??
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London CTR Review
London CTR Review
Amongst the recommendations.....closing heli routes along the river to single engine helis when there are events taking place on the river.
London CTR Review Group Report
Here
Amongst the recommendations.....closing heli routes along the river to single engine helis when there are events taking place on the river.
London CTR Review Group Report
Here
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Interesting. I'd always assumed that the heliroutes were closed to general traffic on boatrace day anyway. Even if they're not formally closed I can just imagine the clearance "can you accept a delay of up to five hours at Gutteridge" !
I was a bit puzzled by this bit:
We can't get into the london CTR without SVFR, and I thought that SVFR had a vis limit of 10km for PPLs and 3km for CPLs. However someone was trying to tell me the other day that those are fixed wing limits and heli SVFR vis is the same as VFR, ie coc/isos and vis approriate to speed. Anyone got a view ?
I was a bit puzzled by this bit:
2.1.9 The varying meteorological criteria for helicopter and fixed wing operations within the London CTR was also highlighted and discussed. The fact that helicopter traffic could be operating on the same route with no forward visibility requirements (clear of cloud in sight of the ground) gave cause for concern, especially with regard to the IFR requirements of the airspace.
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Yes that's what's probably coming, but I was thinking about currently. I've just had a quick scan of the ANO and the only references to vis limits for SVFR are in the plank licensing section, so it looks like for helis currently it's as they say coc/isos and no specific vis.
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You need 6km or more before you will be offered vis separation on the routes.
You need 1000m or more of in flight visibility to fly on the routes at all. (Otherwise if LHR could be in 400m RVR and it could be clear as a bell at bagshot)
When it comes to crossing or inbound to LHR - thats when it becomes a little trickier.............
You need 1000m or more of in flight visibility to fly on the routes at all. (Otherwise if LHR could be in 400m RVR and it could be clear as a bell at bagshot)
When it comes to crossing or inbound to LHR - thats when it becomes a little trickier.............
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Sort of Punto - and that is the problem. (when you say "in House" I think it was written by NATS for our procedures, with CAA backing of course)
Have a look at the zone map labelled "A N T" (for ALL/NOTHING/TWIN) dividing the LCTR.
That was not published anywhere else - and explains why some pilots sound p***ed off with us sometimes!
On a serious note, I have a PowerPoint presentation that I took to the RAF a few times in the last 2 years. Mike T and I are always happy to come to a unit/organisation/flying school and present it again.
Have a look at the zone map labelled "A N T" (for ALL/NOTHING/TWIN) dividing the LCTR.
That was not published anywhere else - and explains why some pilots sound p***ed off with us sometimes!
On a serious note, I have a PowerPoint presentation that I took to the RAF a few times in the last 2 years. Mike T and I are always happy to come to a unit/organisation/flying school and present it again.
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Just PM me and we can sort something out.
It is on my laptop and ready to go! (including some navigational errors played back from radar recordings to show why it is important not to forget to navigate - despite the urge to gaze at the great views!)
It is on my laptop and ready to go! (including some navigational errors played back from radar recordings to show why it is important not to forget to navigate - despite the urge to gaze at the great views!)
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London City airspace changes
The CAA has approved an airspace change to establish a new Class D Control Area (CTA) in the vicinity of London City Airport.
The CTA is additional to the existing London City Control Zone and is intended to enhance the containment of existing London City flight procedures within controlled airspace whilst minimising the overall impact on other airspace users.
The new airspace arrangements will take effect on 13 April 2006.
Advance details of the changes will be published in AlC 19/2006 (Yellow 194) dated 2 March 2006.
The airspace change will be incorporated in the 1:500,000 Aeronautical Chart 'Southern England' Edition 32 that will be published on 16 March 2006 with a note to indicate that the airspace change does not come into effect until 13 April 2006.
The change will also be incorporated in the 1:250,000 Aeronautical Chart ‘England South' (Sheet 8) Edition 10, to be published on 13 April 2006.
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The CAA has approved an airspace change to establish a new Class D Control Area (CTA) in the vicinity of London City Airport.
The CTA is additional to the existing London City Control Zone and is intended to enhance the containment of existing London City flight procedures within controlled airspace whilst minimising the overall impact on other airspace users.
The new airspace arrangements will take effect on 13 April 2006.
Advance details of the changes will be published in AlC 19/2006 (Yellow 194) dated 2 March 2006.
The airspace change will be incorporated in the 1:500,000 Aeronautical Chart 'Southern England' Edition 32 that will be published on 16 March 2006 with a note to indicate that the airspace change does not come into effect until 13 April 2006.
The change will also be incorporated in the 1:250,000 Aeronautical Chart ‘England South' (Sheet 8) Edition 10, to be published on 13 April 2006.
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Landing in London
Landing in London
Hi Folks,
Just a quickie..I have permission from an owner of a 6 acre site, south of Greenwich (Blackheath)to land a twin engine 109 on Monday next....spoke with Special branch and customs (arriving from Dublin)...do I need permission to land from the CAA for this one off landing? subject to Rule 5?...London City airport ?
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Hi Folks,
Just a quickie..I have permission from an owner of a 6 acre site, south of Greenwich (Blackheath)to land a twin engine 109 on Monday next....spoke with Special branch and customs (arriving from Dublin)...do I need permission to land from the CAA for this one off landing? subject to Rule 5?...London City airport ?
thank you
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Rule 5 (3)
(c) Special VFR clearance and notified routes
(i) Any aircraft shall be exempt from the 1000 feet rule when flying in a control zone under a special VFR clearance issued by the appropriate air traffic service unit, or when operating in accordance with the procedures notified for the route being flown.
(ii) When flying in accordance with this exemption landings may not be made at other than a licensed or Government aerodrome, unless the permission of the CAA has been obtained.
And some of Blackheath is in R160,
(c) Special VFR clearance and notified routes
(i) Any aircraft shall be exempt from the 1000 feet rule when flying in a control zone under a special VFR clearance issued by the appropriate air traffic service unit, or when operating in accordance with the procedures notified for the route being flown.
(ii) When flying in accordance with this exemption landings may not be made at other than a licensed or Government aerodrome, unless the permission of the CAA has been obtained.
And some of Blackheath is in R160,