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Several new hires have ended up in Thailand recently. CHC Global are not short of co pilots. CHC (Global) are short of experienced IFR Captains. HR is defiantely going through a transition so give them a break, they are currently starting 4 to 5 Captains a month, although that is now slowing down. Company policy has always been to use nationals as copilots, the recent hiring of ex pat co pilots is due to a shortage of available nationals in Thailand and Nigeria. Most of the Thai's left to work for Si Chang Flying Service, their (Thai) replacements are now coming though line quals so a few ex pat co pilots will be relocating shortly.
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constructive feedback
Ladies and gents -
What never fails to amaze me is that the actually quite intelligent, truthfull and honest postings of people who try to give others advise and constructive feedback very quickly get overturned by the "throw the eggs and tomatoes" kind of stuff, generally posted by people, who, in my humble opinion, either don't have the slightes clue what they are talking about but want to shoot off their mouths anyway because they think they do, or by people who are somewhat interested in improving the industry, but have become so sour over the years and don't have other jobs to go to that they trash everyone anyway.
I realize that I will likely take a lot of rubbish for this posting, but for those of you who have an honest interest in making things better for everyone, keep posting, if possible, constructive feedback. For those of you who don't know jack - remember, the can be greener on the other side. I don't think that any employer ever has forced you to work for them.
And when it comes to feedback about recruiting policies, HR personnel, etc. II think there should be enough professionalism amongst us not to "get personal". In large organisations, it is normally not individuals, but the processes and systems that are at fault.
I have also, with much curiosity, followed the discussion on hourly requirements - if you want to work in the Oil and Gas Industry, remember, it is more than often the Customer setting the requirements. All operators must jointly address this problem, as quite indeed, there are many talented pilots out there which could perfectly fit in, but do not meet the customer's min. requirements.
Then again, judging by some of the "angry, let's see whom I can trash today" postings, I am not so sure about the above statement. It's sad to see that some of you grumpy old farts or guys without any real clue about the industry reflect in this way on the many truly good postings in these discussion threats - now let your guns loose guys, I am doing a statistical analysis how many trash postings will come up in reply to this e-mail!
Safe flying, keep smiling!
What never fails to amaze me is that the actually quite intelligent, truthfull and honest postings of people who try to give others advise and constructive feedback very quickly get overturned by the "throw the eggs and tomatoes" kind of stuff, generally posted by people, who, in my humble opinion, either don't have the slightes clue what they are talking about but want to shoot off their mouths anyway because they think they do, or by people who are somewhat interested in improving the industry, but have become so sour over the years and don't have other jobs to go to that they trash everyone anyway.
I realize that I will likely take a lot of rubbish for this posting, but for those of you who have an honest interest in making things better for everyone, keep posting, if possible, constructive feedback. For those of you who don't know jack - remember, the can be greener on the other side. I don't think that any employer ever has forced you to work for them.
And when it comes to feedback about recruiting policies, HR personnel, etc. II think there should be enough professionalism amongst us not to "get personal". In large organisations, it is normally not individuals, but the processes and systems that are at fault.
I have also, with much curiosity, followed the discussion on hourly requirements - if you want to work in the Oil and Gas Industry, remember, it is more than often the Customer setting the requirements. All operators must jointly address this problem, as quite indeed, there are many talented pilots out there which could perfectly fit in, but do not meet the customer's min. requirements.
Then again, judging by some of the "angry, let's see whom I can trash today" postings, I am not so sure about the above statement. It's sad to see that some of you grumpy old farts or guys without any real clue about the industry reflect in this way on the many truly good postings in these discussion threats - now let your guns loose guys, I am doing a statistical analysis how many trash postings will come up in reply to this e-mail!
Safe flying, keep smiling!
TR,
The first sentence begins to sum up the "old school management attitude". It can parsed to say..."you don't like it here....piss off!"
As to your second comment...what system or process is not created by individuals?
If you implement a fecked up system....it is not the system that is at fault. Fecked up systems and policies are the direct result of incompetent management.
I would suggest the modern concept of "Human Resources" is a load of crap when "HR" does the hiring and not the folks that are going to be utilizing those hired. Currently, "HR" does the recruiting, screening, and at presents their "picks" to the CP who then might have an input. How many fish drop through the net that could be "keepers" if the correct net had been used?
CP's and CE's should do the hiring and let the "HR" mafia do the paperwork just as "Pilot Admin" or "Engineering Admin" used to do.
The key is not finding fault with the messenger but realistically evaluating the message. If people are criticizing the "system" then review the "system" to see if the complaints are valid.
I don't think that any employer ever has forced you to work for them.
...In large organisations, it is normally not individuals, but the processes and systems that are at fault
...In large organisations, it is normally not individuals, but the processes and systems that are at fault
As to your second comment...what system or process is not created by individuals?
If you implement a fecked up system....it is not the system that is at fault. Fecked up systems and policies are the direct result of incompetent management.
I would suggest the modern concept of "Human Resources" is a load of crap when "HR" does the hiring and not the folks that are going to be utilizing those hired. Currently, "HR" does the recruiting, screening, and at presents their "picks" to the CP who then might have an input. How many fish drop through the net that could be "keepers" if the correct net had been used?
CP's and CE's should do the hiring and let the "HR" mafia do the paperwork just as "Pilot Admin" or "Engineering Admin" used to do.
The key is not finding fault with the messenger but realistically evaluating the message. If people are criticizing the "system" then review the "system" to see if the complaints are valid.
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TR
..... old darling ... methinks you might be one of those with a can of lighter fluid in one hand and a box of matches in the other ....
You may be working in Qatar at the moment ...BUT I wonder how much REAL world commercial experience you really have ?????
We will have to watch you veeeerrry closely !!!
Cheers
..... old darling ... methinks you might be one of those with a can of lighter fluid in one hand and a box of matches in the other ....
You may be working in Qatar at the moment ...BUT I wonder how much REAL world commercial experience you really have ?????
We will have to watch you veeeerrry closely !!!
Cheers
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hehehe
Come on old chaps - there is no finger pointing, and Spinwing, although he has his guesses wrong, is quite right, it's nice to stir the **** sometimes! Isn't that what we are all here for? Thanks S.W., I take the ligher fluid as a compliment.
SAS-Less - The only problem I have, and that is why I made the comment you quote, is not that things are perfect in all companies, in fact I agree that many companies have lots of stuff to fix, including wages (although, we may have come to a stages, especially considering contract requirements, age restrictions, etc. where maybe we do not have the luxury of attracting people just with money any more). Not that more money hurts.
However, I do think that those guys who sit around on the porch after work and keep on whining and winging over a few beers, but never ever take the initiative to provide real useful and constructive feedback, seem to be quite often the guys who post personal insults on this forum, possibly after everyone else has left the porch and now they don't have anything better to do.
When it comes to HR practices - it ain't that easy any more today, especially not in big organisations, there are not only whom-you-know aspects, but nowadays, also many legal and other aspects to consider. That is probably why in bigger companies, like CHC, they leave it up to professional with an HR background, I would think. I believe that ultimately, although the hiring process may not be that ideal, the decision still remains with the CP, or sometimes training Captains who often provide good feedback.
The old flying clubs where you operated 10 helicopters, and the only way you joined the club was by knowing the Chiefpilot personnally by the way, and which never gave the younger guys, new to the business any chance, are fortunately coming to an end. Mostly for the good of the guys who want to advance in the industry, in all fairness.
Again - I agree with all comments that many problems need fixing; Because you have mentionned it - I wonder how many guys nowadays, unless they want to score a free 412 rating, want to go to Doha anymore? There seems to be a strange change of demographics there, and at ADA by the way too. I wonder why?
I think the only point I had to make is that it's pretty unprofessional to drag a particular person in the CHC hiring process through the dirt like this. Wonder how you would feel about it?
I am amazed, I have already generated 2 stinkers to my last posting, looks like the experiment is working.
Keep smiling guys and safe flying! I better watch my lighter fluid! Thanks for that comment Spinwing - quite like it! I am a bit disappointed about the commercial experience though. Maybe you are referring to North Sea experience only?
Later boys, be safe.
SAS-Less - The only problem I have, and that is why I made the comment you quote, is not that things are perfect in all companies, in fact I agree that many companies have lots of stuff to fix, including wages (although, we may have come to a stages, especially considering contract requirements, age restrictions, etc. where maybe we do not have the luxury of attracting people just with money any more). Not that more money hurts.
However, I do think that those guys who sit around on the porch after work and keep on whining and winging over a few beers, but never ever take the initiative to provide real useful and constructive feedback, seem to be quite often the guys who post personal insults on this forum, possibly after everyone else has left the porch and now they don't have anything better to do.
When it comes to HR practices - it ain't that easy any more today, especially not in big organisations, there are not only whom-you-know aspects, but nowadays, also many legal and other aspects to consider. That is probably why in bigger companies, like CHC, they leave it up to professional with an HR background, I would think. I believe that ultimately, although the hiring process may not be that ideal, the decision still remains with the CP, or sometimes training Captains who often provide good feedback.
The old flying clubs where you operated 10 helicopters, and the only way you joined the club was by knowing the Chiefpilot personnally by the way, and which never gave the younger guys, new to the business any chance, are fortunately coming to an end. Mostly for the good of the guys who want to advance in the industry, in all fairness.
Again - I agree with all comments that many problems need fixing; Because you have mentionned it - I wonder how many guys nowadays, unless they want to score a free 412 rating, want to go to Doha anymore? There seems to be a strange change of demographics there, and at ADA by the way too. I wonder why?
I think the only point I had to make is that it's pretty unprofessional to drag a particular person in the CHC hiring process through the dirt like this. Wonder how you would feel about it?
I am amazed, I have already generated 2 stinkers to my last posting, looks like the experiment is working.
Keep smiling guys and safe flying! I better watch my lighter fluid! Thanks for that comment Spinwing - quite like it! I am a bit disappointed about the commercial experience though. Maybe you are referring to North Sea experience only?
Later boys, be safe.
