Birdstrikes - incl pictures
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When I learned to fly we always landed grass left or grass right to the main bitumen runway when we were conforming to circuit traffic with the planks.
So when I went flying on my own I did what most of us do & continued to practice what I'd absorbed by osmosis during training.
Then one day I came barreling in grass left to a country airstrip & flew right over a flock of feeding galahs. I never even saw them in the long grass & the late afternoon light till they got airborne as I passed over them.
To this day I don't know how I could zoom through two dozen parrots & not hit one of them? These days I tend to to stick much closer to the main runway or do a helicopter approach straight to the bowser, especially if the grass is long.
So when I went flying on my own I did what most of us do & continued to practice what I'd absorbed by osmosis during training.
Then one day I came barreling in grass left to a country airstrip & flew right over a flock of feeding galahs. I never even saw them in the long grass & the late afternoon light till they got airborne as I passed over them.
To this day I don't know how I could zoom through two dozen parrots & not hit one of them? These days I tend to to stick much closer to the main runway or do a helicopter approach straight to the bowser, especially if the grass is long.
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The stork went along the side of the pilotshead tearing of his headset. He was not wearing a helmet. The medical crew lost communications with the pilot because of this. They thought he was dead because he did not reply and saw a lot of blood. The pilot was in shock for a moment because the the bang and the air coming in on his chest and face. He recovered just in time to land safely.
The helicopter was flying aprox. 120kts at 500ft AGL. I do not know the weight of the stork but the average weight of a stork is between 3 and 5 kg!
Now comes the best part: The helicopter was carrying a premature baby in an incubator. The stork probably delivered this baby too early on the world and he was punished for that.
An other helicopter came to pick up the little patient in the incubator.
Heliharm.
The helicopter was flying aprox. 120kts at 500ft AGL. I do not know the weight of the stork but the average weight of a stork is between 3 and 5 kg!
Now comes the best part: The helicopter was carrying a premature baby in an incubator. The stork probably delivered this baby too early on the world and he was punished for that.
An other helicopter came to pick up the little patient in the incubator.
Heliharm.
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Rang a mate 1 day to ask him if his H-500 was available for hire.
"Yeah mate no worries" he said, "just at the moment its in a few bits and pieces."
"For maintance" I asked
"Nah mate I had a bird strike the other day."
"What sort of bird ya hit mate" I asked
"A small one" He said
"Was there much damage and when do ya reckon it would be ready to hire.."
"It'll be a few months to fix and yep there was a lot of damage"...
"How can a small bird do so much damage mate" I asked
His Answer was
"It was still in the nest"
And that is a fair dinkum true story
"Yeah mate no worries" he said, "just at the moment its in a few bits and pieces."
"For maintance" I asked
"Nah mate I had a bird strike the other day."
"What sort of bird ya hit mate" I asked
"A small one" He said
"Was there much damage and when do ya reckon it would be ready to hire.."
"It'll be a few months to fix and yep there was a lot of damage"...
"How can a small bird do so much damage mate" I asked
His Answer was
"It was still in the nest"
And that is a fair dinkum true story
The helicopter was flying aprox. 120kts at 500ft AGL
Birds do not have time to get out of the way when you are faster than this. Their natural instinct is to fake one way before they fly off in another direction (usually down). This takes time.
You won't find many birds above 2000ft, no insects either so it keeps the screen clean.
Johe02,
Who and where did you get taught this bit of aviation information? Upon what did they base that concept?
Even the CFS could not come up with such a concept!
Who and where did you get taught this bit of aviation information? Upon what did they base that concept?
Even the CFS could not come up with such a concept!
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Originally Posted by discobeast
.... saw one actually chasing another 22 while it started it's take-off roll. one of our instructors had a "bird-nudge" in a 22 at the beginning of the week.
The problem with 22's is that they get bird strikes on the tail, where birds are either trying to overtake, or mate...
I'll get my coat.
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Originally Posted by paddyboy
Time is not an issue...
If you do spot a bird it's usually too late to do anything.
If you do spot a bird it's usually too late to do anything.
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To be fair the stork being a non-predatory bird it probably had a few inherent design issues - poor eyesight i.e eyes on the side of its head so it's probably crap at ranging things.
Also the aircraft was an EC 135 so the bird probably could be excused for not hearing it coming - could have been an old stork and partially deaf!!
From currently flying the 135 it is noticeable that birds don't get out of the way due to the low noise.
Interestingly with most predatory birds you can fly up and format with them and they are not really concerned - especially the large ones at the top of the heap who have no predators. They kind of look at you in disgust at your poor attempt at what you think is flight. Try it sometime with any eagle. They get comfortable with you being there after a while and you can get really close - p.e. with the wedge tailed variety and the golden version.
Also the aircraft was an EC 135 so the bird probably could be excused for not hearing it coming - could have been an old stork and partially deaf!!
From currently flying the 135 it is noticeable that birds don't get out of the way due to the low noise.
Interestingly with most predatory birds you can fly up and format with them and they are not really concerned - especially the large ones at the top of the heap who have no predators. They kind of look at you in disgust at your poor attempt at what you think is flight. Try it sometime with any eagle. They get comfortable with you being there after a while and you can get really close - p.e. with the wedge tailed variety and the golden version.
The SAAF Pumas had an interesting device fitted in front of the throttles. In the event of a birdstrike and the bird entering through the centre windshield, this structure would stop the throttles being closed by the impact!
As I was told, this actually happened and an aircraft ended up with both engines at idle - something that could actually happen to any aircraft with overhead throttles. I had never heard of another instance of this, until the one that Stan mentioned.
As I was told, this actually happened and an aircraft ended up with both engines at idle - something that could actually happen to any aircraft with overhead throttles. I had never heard of another instance of this, until the one that Stan mentioned.
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Goodgrief,
You can disagree, but I hope you are not thinking that the windshield on a Pt 27 bird is the same as a Pt 29 one!
The bird you hit would have pinned you to the back of the cabin if your windshield on the 222 was made of the cheese of that windshield on the 105 that started this thread.
The Part 29 rules are very much more stringent than the Part 27 rules, and the difference can be seen if you have ever tried to remove the windshield on one. Look at the pic of the Black Hawk in Bronx's post and compare it to the 105 to see what I am talking about.
You can disagree, but I hope you are not thinking that the windshield on a Pt 27 bird is the same as a Pt 29 one!
The bird you hit would have pinned you to the back of the cabin if your windshield on the 222 was made of the cheese of that windshield on the 105 that started this thread.
The Part 29 rules are very much more stringent than the Part 27 rules, and the difference can be seen if you have ever tried to remove the windshield on one. Look at the pic of the Black Hawk in Bronx's post and compare it to the 105 to see what I am talking about.
SASless,
if you operate in a part of the world where swallows weigh 1 lb, I'd hate to see how big the ducks are!!!
if you operate in a part of the world where swallows weigh 1 lb, I'd hate to see how big the ducks are!!!
Originally Posted by Johe02
You won't find many birds above 2000ft, no insects either so it keeps the screen clean.
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Just another photo I have found. Look at the blood all over the helicopter
http://blogs.periodistadigital.com/aviaciondigital.php/2006/06/03/p30447#more30447
I still canīt understand why a company donīt want to spend money on helmets. It will cost about 1200 euros each. But a crashed helicopter with 4 or 5 dead will cost a lot more. Even a pig can figure that one out!
We will start night flying this year and I hope that we will get helmets.
If not I will secure my safety and by one myself.
Heliharm.
http://blogs.periodistadigital.com/aviaciondigital.php/2006/06/03/p30447#more30447
I still canīt understand why a company donīt want to spend money on helmets. It will cost about 1200 euros each. But a crashed helicopter with 4 or 5 dead will cost a lot more. Even a pig can figure that one out!
We will start night flying this year and I hope that we will get helmets.
If not I will secure my safety and by one myself.
Heliharm.
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Originally Posted by 212man
SASless,
if you operate in a part of the world where swallows weigh 1 lb, I'd hate to see how big the ducks are!!!
if you operate in a part of the world where swallows weigh 1 lb, I'd hate to see how big the ducks are!!!
JOHE02
"I was taught, less than 2000ft not more than 90 kts." !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And did that big mr smiff tell you to eat all your veg before you are allowed any ice cream too ? unbelievable !!!!!!!!!!!!!! get a life
"I was taught, less than 2000ft not more than 90 kts." !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And did that big mr smiff tell you to eat all your veg before you are allowed any ice cream too ?
unbelievable !!!!!!!!!!!!!! get a life