Fixed/variable costs of piston helos
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Originally Posted by Bravo73
It might not say anything about the aircraft but it says an awful lot about a company based at Sywell which brings/brought them into this country. 
Muffin,
I also heard that (from multiple sources). When I called their number to check, noone picked up. Make from it what you will...
Muffin,
I also heard that (from multiple sources). When I called their number to check, noone picked up. Make from it what you will...
But let's get back to the original discussion.
Originally Posted by Mr Selfish
I think the collective issue needs clarification. It’s not that the collective “creeps” on a properly set up Hiller or B47. It’s the fact that even on an allegedly/apparently well set up machine, given the right conditions wind gust/cyclic input/angry god, the collective can slam
. Beware! I’d been flying the ’47 that nearly killed me for 3 days prior to it’s “satanic possession episode” I was in smooth air with the collective friction done up. After the loop
the AC was inspected, the broken engine restraint cables replaced (broke in the violent manoeuvre)and pronounced OK
I flew it for a few more days (with a firm grip on the collective) with no reoccurrence.
. Beware! I’d been flying the ’47 that nearly killed me for 3 days prior to it’s “satanic possession episode” I was in smooth air with the collective friction done up. After the loop the AC was inspected, the broken engine restraint cables replaced (broke in the violent manoeuvre)and pronounced OK I flew it for a few more days (with a firm grip on the collective) with no reoccurrence.Here is some info which will help: http://brumbyhelicopters.com.au/hiller12erotors.htm
The B47G with metal blades can have similar probs - hydraulics off - if not rigged correctly - including checking the effects of the balance weight washer stack on the R Head in Auto.
Hope this helps.
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Originally Posted by Bravo73
re Pulse.
Has anyone actually tried contacting them? Last time I tried to call, nobody picked up the phone. Nice website though...
And if you are thinking of buying from them, try searching on here first. Then you'll discover a certain accident report that should be read.
Has anyone actually tried contacting them? Last time I tried to call, nobody picked up the phone. Nice website though...
And if you are thinking of buying from them, try searching on here first. Then you'll discover a certain accident report that should be read.
01604 791777 - 01604 790777 -
email: [email protected]
Phones have been faulty due to flooding at Sywell. The new number is at an office off site. (01604 791777)
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Helicopter ownership
I'm toying with the idea of starting up my own business in the next year or two. At this stage I think an R22 or R44 would be the best choice for what I have in mind but I wouldn't mind getting the lowdown on what is to be expected with ownership.
I have an idea of what else is involved besides the initial cost of the machine, but lets just assume I know nothing about about ownership altogether. What other costs are involved and what factors need to be thought about if I were to put this plan into action. I would like to hear what people have to say about owning a Robby or any other machine for that matter. Any input, opinions, info would be appreciated. Thanks.
I have an idea of what else is involved besides the initial cost of the machine, but lets just assume I know nothing about about ownership altogether. What other costs are involved and what factors need to be thought about if I were to put this plan into action. I would like to hear what people have to say about owning a Robby or any other machine for that matter. Any input, opinions, info would be appreciated. Thanks.
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I guess your local Robinson dealer can best answer your questions, based on what you are going to do with your machine.
What comes to mind (other than the purchase cost) is:
- fuel/oil
- insurance
- maintenance
- airport fee
- hangar fee
- maps and gps updates etc
- fees to get and keep your pilots license
- fees for doing commercial flights
- white shirt with stripes ;-)
- profit taxes
I also guess that there are at least one or two other threads about this topic
What comes to mind (other than the purchase cost) is:
- fuel/oil
- insurance
- maintenance
- airport fee
- hangar fee
- maps and gps updates etc
- fees to get and keep your pilots license
- fees for doing commercial flights
- white shirt with stripes ;-)
- profit taxes
I also guess that there are at least one or two other threads about this topic
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However I don't fly the R-22 and probably never will, I read accident reports.
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Helicopters are expensive to operate - capital costs, depreciation, fixed and variable maintenance, repairs, insurance, taxes/licensing, hangarage, fuel..... That's why the hourly rental costs are so high.
But, there is a point where ownership becomes viable and for private owners, this can start from about 100hrs pa upwards - especially when you include the benefits of knowing it's your helicopter, maintained to your standards, available when and where you want it.
Obviously lots of people would like to own a helicopter and make money out of it, but few do. Those that make money from helicopters normally work hard and shrewd.
Not a fan of the Robinsons, but their costs are likely to be the most predicatable, aided by the economies of scale. They were designed and built to satisfy the budget end of the market. But, more importantly, you would need to make sure they are the best helicopter for your intended use.
Helicopters are expensive to operate - capital costs, depreciation, fixed and variable maintenance, repairs, insurance, taxes/licensing, hangarage, fuel..... That's why the hourly rental costs are so high.
But, there is a point where ownership becomes viable and for private owners, this can start from about 100hrs pa upwards - especially when you include the benefits of knowing it's your helicopter, maintained to your standards, available when and where you want it.
Obviously lots of people would like to own a helicopter and make money out of it, but few do. Those that make money from helicopters normally work hard and shrewd.
Not a fan of the Robinsons, but their costs are likely to be the most predicatable, aided by the economies of scale. They were designed and built to satisfy the budget end of the market. But, more importantly, you would need to make sure they are the best helicopter for your intended use.
