What's going on at Goodwood?
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Re: whats going on at Goodwood?
Maninknow,
Sorry if I snapped a bit, no offence intended. The engineering concern is now firmly and finally closed, so I wonder where Elite will be getting their dailies etc done ? Shoreham ? Can't think of anywhere closer that has the facilites etc.
Interesting times !!
Cheers,
NEO
Sorry if I snapped a bit, no offence intended. The engineering concern is now firmly and finally closed, so I wonder where Elite will be getting their dailies etc done ? Shoreham ? Can't think of anywhere closer that has the facilites etc.
Interesting times !!
Cheers,
NEO
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Re: whats going on at Goodwood?
All seems to be rumour about Elite Helicopters at this time, what ever happened to Atlas Helicopters I thought they were planning to move their corporate headquarters to Goodwood. Did this ever happen.
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Repeating a rumour about someone's "serious heath issue", naming the company for whom he works and identifying him as a "main man" in the company is not acceptable.
Whether the rumour is true or not makes no difference. People are enitled to privacy about personal matters.
Heliport
Nexp paragraph deleted.
Repeating a rumour about someone's "serious heath issue", naming the company for whom he works and identifying him as a "main man" in the company is not acceptable.
Whether the rumour is true or not makes no difference. People are enitled to privacy about personal matters.
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I have deleted my comments.
The information that I have is from a VERY reliable source, as good as from the horses mouth as far a I am concerned.
I am starting to tire of Pprune, firstly I cannot choose the name that I want because it is deemed as vaguely similar to someone elses, and now I am at a point where I feel that people are making such a fuss over what is effectively a "rumour" that I have to delete my comments.
Once upon a time Pprune used to be a safe haven for people discussing industry rumours, it is becoming ridiculous.
Heliport,
Please e-mail me re:- name change
The information that I have is from a VERY reliable source, as good as from the horses mouth as far a I am concerned.
I am starting to tire of Pprune, firstly I cannot choose the name that I want because it is deemed as vaguely similar to someone elses, and now I am at a point where I feel that people are making such a fuss over what is effectively a "rumour" that I have to delete my comments.
Once upon a time Pprune used to be a safe haven for people discussing industry rumours, it is becoming ridiculous.
Heliport,
Please e-mail me re:- name change
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Careful Retreating Blade, you can cause a lot of Innocent People a lot of harm in a very short time by 'Spreading Rumours' like that. You can not accuse someone of: 'Having trouble paying their bills' just because someone has a made a claim against them.
Maybe it is true that there is a claim being made, but by who, how much for and most importantly why have they not been paid. Maybe they owe money in return, maybe that debt has been outstanding for longer, maybe there is a Counter Claim being made or maybe there is a dispute over the charges made for the services provided.
Look Deep You Will See The Truth.
Maybe this subject is best left for the courts to decide, not us Rumour Mongers.
Maybe it is true that there is a claim being made, but by who, how much for and most importantly why have they not been paid. Maybe they owe money in return, maybe that debt has been outstanding for longer, maybe there is a Counter Claim being made or maybe there is a dispute over the charges made for the services provided.
Look Deep You Will See The Truth.
Maybe this subject is best left for the courts to decide, not us Rumour Mongers.
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I think RB's post is highly dubious and any solicitor could prove that such a post is damaging. Reading such a post would make me wary of giving any money to the company concerned, let alone leaving a helicopter with them.
Migh be a good idea to delete this thread to avoid legal nasties.
Migh be a good idea to delete this thread to avoid legal nasties.
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I quite agree Headsethair. I would think the Moderator ought to be looking at this.
As for your comments Retreating Blade even if the RUMOUR came from a so called reliable source or not, it really is not fair to destabalise a Company like that. I made a phone call last night to a 'Very Reliable Source' right inside the other 'Horses Mouth' and I can tell you there is a lot more behind this than meets the eye. If I were to reveal what I now know here (which I believe to be the truth) then a certain person who has been spreading this gossip could be in big trouble if they do not put a few things right before moving on. I choose not to Spread the contents of that conversation, because in essence I would be Spreading Rumours that could harm someone proffessionally. You should do the same and I am glad you saw fit to remove your accusation.
As for your comments on pprune, if you are that peed off with it why do you bother logging on.
Good Luck with the name, I thought it was a good one.
As for your comments Retreating Blade even if the RUMOUR came from a so called reliable source or not, it really is not fair to destabalise a Company like that. I made a phone call last night to a 'Very Reliable Source' right inside the other 'Horses Mouth' and I can tell you there is a lot more behind this than meets the eye. If I were to reveal what I now know here (which I believe to be the truth) then a certain person who has been spreading this gossip could be in big trouble if they do not put a few things right before moving on. I choose not to Spread the contents of that conversation, because in essence I would be Spreading Rumours that could harm someone proffessionally. You should do the same and I am glad you saw fit to remove your accusation.
As for your comments on pprune, if you are that peed off with it why do you bother logging on.
Good Luck with the name, I thought it was a good one.
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RetreatingBlade
Thank you for removing your comments. I didn't see them but, from what I've read, it seems like a good move.
Captain Universe
'RetreatingBlade' is indeed a good name.
However, 'Retreating Blade' is already well established so, to avoid confusion beyween 'RetreatingBlade' and 'Retreating Blade' I asked 'RetreatingBlade' if he'll re-register under a different username to avoid confusion with 'Retreating Blade'.
Heliport
Thank you for removing your comments. I didn't see them but, from what I've read, it seems like a good move.
Captain Universe
'RetreatingBlade' is indeed a good name.
However, 'Retreating Blade' is already well established so, to avoid confusion beyween 'RetreatingBlade' and 'Retreating Blade' I asked 'RetreatingBlade' if he'll re-register under a different username to avoid confusion with 'Retreating Blade'.
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Captain Universe,
For me it was just a case of getting in before the mods.
The reason I continue to log on, is because sometimes there can be some very educational and informative threads, and only really on the odd occasion do I feel the need to post myself.
I liked the name too, but apparently it's not allowed!!!
For me it was just a case of getting in before the mods.
The reason I continue to log on, is because sometimes there can be some very educational and informative threads, and only really on the odd occasion do I feel the need to post myself.
I liked the name too, but apparently it's not allowed!!!
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RB,
I don't think it's unreasonable of the mods to request you have a different name - after all, there are enough people here who can't tell the difference between Whirlybird (AKA Whirly with red personal title) and Whirlygig (AKA Whirls with blue personal title)!
Whilst the confusion can be sometimes amusing for us, it can also be irritating!
Cheers
Whirls
I don't think it's unreasonable of the mods to request you have a different name - after all, there are enough people here who can't tell the difference between Whirlybird (AKA Whirly with red personal title) and Whirlygig (AKA Whirls with blue personal title)!
Whilst the confusion can be sometimes amusing for us, it can also be irritating!
Cheers
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Retreating Blade. I fully understand your point. Its just that you sounded very demoralised and disenchanted with Prune. Don't take it to seriously or personally after all this Forum is all about the Helicopter Industry. Shame about the name but guess someone beat you to it, sure you will come up with another just as good.
Sorry if I sounded agressive about the other business, but it was rather Thin Ice. Sensible move to retreat.
CU
Sorry if I sounded agressive about the other business, but it was rather Thin Ice. Sensible move to retreat.
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Right, I'm back, with my new shiny identity!
CU, Is this as good as the last one???
Thanks RB.
Good name.
Heliport
CU, Is this as good as the last one???
Thanks RB.
Good name.
Heliport
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More rumours re Goodwood
Who knows the latest - more rumours abound re new outfit/original outfit?
Let's hope it's all sorted by the time of Goodwood's big events - wouldn't want more bad publicity for the chopper fraternity..............
Let's hope it's all sorted by the time of Goodwood's big events - wouldn't want more bad publicity for the chopper fraternity..............
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Whats Going On At Goodwood
I hear that the situation has all been resolved and that Elite are back in favour again and have won back the contract for the Goodwood Events, rumour also has it that the deal is for 3 years and as Sole Operator at the Airfield. So I guess Atlas will have to leave the airfield, that honeymoon didnt last long. Sounds as though it was all about money at the end of the day. Well done Elite for not giving up.
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I heard the same Maninknow.
In fact Elite had a release sent out to all operators last week saying that they had won back the contract. Not sure about the term of the deal or the Sole Operator bit, but that would make sense. Looks like all those rumours about Elite leaving the airfield at the end of last December were well off the mark after all. Elite must be well pleased to have turned this around after only one season, guess something was not right with last years operations for the event, or as you say maybe it was just down to who would pay the most money. Either way well done Elite, and good luck with the new deal.
I also heard that Elite are going Twin with an A109, any substance in that as it seems a big step up the ladder.
CU
In fact Elite had a release sent out to all operators last week saying that they had won back the contract. Not sure about the term of the deal or the Sole Operator bit, but that would make sense. Looks like all those rumours about Elite leaving the airfield at the end of last December were well off the mark after all. Elite must be well pleased to have turned this around after only one season, guess something was not right with last years operations for the event, or as you say maybe it was just down to who would pay the most money. Either way well done Elite, and good luck with the new deal.
I also heard that Elite are going Twin with an A109, any substance in that as it seems a big step up the ladder.
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I heard about the A109 some time back, I know they now have an owner who has bought one although it was operated into Cheltenham by Rotormotion from Redhill, nice new paint job, Royal Blue with a single Ferrari Red stripe. Quite Tasty, Rumour has it that Rotormotion are operating it until the AOC variation is completed by Elite. Guess if thats the case it will be buzzing around Goodwood at the Festival of Speed etc. As you say a big step up from the 206 market for Elite, but I am sure that they are well capable.
I heard about the A109 some time back, I know they now have an owner who has bought one although it was operated into Cheltenham by Rotormotion from Redhill, nice new paint job, Royal Blue with a single Ferrari Red stripe. Quite Tasty, Rumour has it that Rotormotion are operating it until the AOC variation is completed by Elite. Guess if thats the case it will be buzzing around Goodwood at the Festival of Speed etc. As you say a big step up from the 206 market for Elite, but I am sure that they are well capable.
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Hey Maniknow have a look at both the Elite website www.elitehelicopters.co.uk and the Atlas site www.atlashelicopters.co.uk. Looks like they both hold a contract for 2006. Could be interesting. 
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Goodwood News
WHAT IS GOING ON AT GOODWOOD??
I have heard that the latest Goodwood Contract has been re-awarded to Elite and that Atlas no longer operate the contract. WHY???
Having flown for Atlas Helicopters during the 2005 Festival of Speed and Revival meeting, I can only comment on what a brilliant job the guys did. Their organisation of the charters ( of which there were many ) was first class with Alana, their Ops Manager running round ensuring everyone was happy ( customers & pilots alike ).
Having been present with one of the owners of Atlas during the FOS, whilst being congratulated by a senior manager of Goodwood on how efficient their operation was, I can only assume that the award of the latest contract was down to money and not quality of operation!!
I have been a freelance pilot for some 10 years ( IR'd ) and have worked for several AOC Holders. Atlas I have to say are amongst the better in the industry!!
Having come across Elite at most of the Special Events, I have to say that their aircraft and crews are not in the same league as Atlas. This is not to say they are not an operator worthy of the Goodwood contract; from what I understand they are welcome to it. With the way that Goodwood have treated Atlas ( and Fast Helis to a lesser extent ) they are well off out of there and returning to Lee-on-Solent, I believe, is their best move as I understand Goodwood do not want opposotion to Elite at the airfield!!
Does Elite have some kind of hold over Goodwood; dirt??
Why when awarding the contract in 2005 to a VIP Operation, would Goodwood return to Elite operating singles? With major international clients involved at both meetings, would they really want to fly in single engine aircraft?
I have also heard that Goodwood have not only asked Atlas to leave the airfield but also CEGA who have been there for 30 years. Sounds like the airfield is being turned into a business park involving non-aviation businesses as their hangar is being turned into offices!!
The Goodwood contract is not all it is cracked-up to be. With Goodwood demanding major sums of money for commission in return for the contract; it sounds as though they are sacrificing quality for cash!!!
I have heard that the latest Goodwood Contract has been re-awarded to Elite and that Atlas no longer operate the contract. WHY???
Having flown for Atlas Helicopters during the 2005 Festival of Speed and Revival meeting, I can only comment on what a brilliant job the guys did. Their organisation of the charters ( of which there were many ) was first class with Alana, their Ops Manager running round ensuring everyone was happy ( customers & pilots alike ).
Having been present with one of the owners of Atlas during the FOS, whilst being congratulated by a senior manager of Goodwood on how efficient their operation was, I can only assume that the award of the latest contract was down to money and not quality of operation!!
I have been a freelance pilot for some 10 years ( IR'd ) and have worked for several AOC Holders. Atlas I have to say are amongst the better in the industry!!
Having come across Elite at most of the Special Events, I have to say that their aircraft and crews are not in the same league as Atlas. This is not to say they are not an operator worthy of the Goodwood contract; from what I understand they are welcome to it. With the way that Goodwood have treated Atlas ( and Fast Helis to a lesser extent ) they are well off out of there and returning to Lee-on-Solent, I believe, is their best move as I understand Goodwood do not want opposotion to Elite at the airfield!!
Does Elite have some kind of hold over Goodwood; dirt??
Why when awarding the contract in 2005 to a VIP Operation, would Goodwood return to Elite operating singles? With major international clients involved at both meetings, would they really want to fly in single engine aircraft?
I have also heard that Goodwood have not only asked Atlas to leave the airfield but also CEGA who have been there for 30 years. Sounds like the airfield is being turned into a business park involving non-aviation businesses as their hangar is being turned into offices!!
The Goodwood contract is not all it is cracked-up to be. With Goodwood demanding major sums of money for commission in return for the contract; it sounds as though they are sacrificing quality for cash!!!