bin laden video chan 4 news
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From: Escrick York england
on tonights channel 4 news [uk] there was a clip of the bin laden video ,it shows a american downed helicopter the engine attached had spark plugs .
does the american military still use piston helicopters for war lou is that the type you make or was it a crashed robbie gunship
[ 13 December 2001: Message edited by: md 600 driver ]
does the american military still use piston helicopters for war lou is that the type you make or was it a crashed robbie gunship
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Well the secret is out, it was the remains of the R22 Vulcan, fitted with the latest look and fire 30000 rounds per min Titanium multi barrel gatling gun,( it does however have the larger more powerfull engine) they only have a problem with it when they wish to fire Du rounds through it, it alters, ever so slightly the C/B, this is thought to have befallen the one you saw!
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From: perth
I recall early in the conflict they showed wreckage of a 'downed ' American helicopter, it was the wheels of a CH 47, it clearly showed the Vertol Pensylvania label, except the model clearly showed CH 47 on the plate. Would these plates indicate the generic model or model type eg CH47 D, or CH 47 C.?

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Intercepted from rooters news services this afternoon:
Reports of the revolutionary new R22 Vulcan gunship developed for the budget concious Taliban have been filtering through this week. There are reports of debris identifiable with the aircraft in a smoking hole near Kandahar, and unconfirmed eye witnesses claim it is (was) the gunship.
Taliban spokesman Manuts Ache Noow, said "we can confirm that Allah's Gunship (the R22 Vulcan) recently shot down a B1B bomber whilst on patrol near Diego Garcia. This continues the spectacular success of the aircraft, having previously shot down a UH-60 in the earlier stages of the war, and having shot the wheel assembly off a CH-47 two weeks ago. Allah's Gunship is a feared weapon of defiance" he said.
Eye Witness reports continue to contradict the Taliban position. Whilst there is little denial that the aircraft was a spectacular success, eye witnesses claim that during a victory roll over Kandahar, the pilot answered his cell phone and accidently tangled his sheets in the controls. He was unable to regain control before Allah's earth came up to smite him, and the gunship became a smoking hole. An un-named American expert who analysed the aircraft said " the [Allah's Gunship] aircraft was well named because it is only by the will of Allah that the aircraft would fly without rotor incursion, mast bump, and rotor seperation. It is clear that due to the desert air at night the aircraft would glow when airborne, thus illuminating it to the allied forces whom were able to direct fire at it. In the subsequent manuevering to avoid the fire, the delta 3 offset so confused the pilot that he entered sideslip which caused the main rotor to fly off. It is a well known problem with these type of aircraft" he said.
Either way, it appears that Allah's Gunship - the revolutionary R22 Vulcan - is no more.
Rooters News Services: Afghanistan
Reports of the revolutionary new R22 Vulcan gunship developed for the budget concious Taliban have been filtering through this week. There are reports of debris identifiable with the aircraft in a smoking hole near Kandahar, and unconfirmed eye witnesses claim it is (was) the gunship.
Taliban spokesman Manuts Ache Noow, said "we can confirm that Allah's Gunship (the R22 Vulcan) recently shot down a B1B bomber whilst on patrol near Diego Garcia. This continues the spectacular success of the aircraft, having previously shot down a UH-60 in the earlier stages of the war, and having shot the wheel assembly off a CH-47 two weeks ago. Allah's Gunship is a feared weapon of defiance" he said.
Eye Witness reports continue to contradict the Taliban position. Whilst there is little denial that the aircraft was a spectacular success, eye witnesses claim that during a victory roll over Kandahar, the pilot answered his cell phone and accidently tangled his sheets in the controls. He was unable to regain control before Allah's earth came up to smite him, and the gunship became a smoking hole. An un-named American expert who analysed the aircraft said " the [Allah's Gunship] aircraft was well named because it is only by the will of Allah that the aircraft would fly without rotor incursion, mast bump, and rotor seperation. It is clear that due to the desert air at night the aircraft would glow when airborne, thus illuminating it to the allied forces whom were able to direct fire at it. In the subsequent manuevering to avoid the fire, the delta 3 offset so confused the pilot that he entered sideslip which caused the main rotor to fly off. It is a well known problem with these type of aircraft" he said.
Either way, it appears that Allah's Gunship - the revolutionary R22 Vulcan - is no more.
Rooters News Services: Afghanistan
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Helmet Fire,
The Vulcan MH/R-22 was developed with a unique and foolproof design intent. Parked near the roadway at American Air Bases, the MH/R-22 is actually designed to BE hi-jacked. Large signs point at the aircraft and say, in various languages, "Don't Take This Helicopter!"
The Plan, developed by an Aerospace Expert skilled in such matters, is simple. Induce the hi-jackers to steal the aircraft, then watch as they become confused with the 18 degree swashplate misalignment, develop control difficulties, and finally perish. What a develishly fiendish plan - make the aircraft unflyable!
Reports indicate little success so far, but the Aerospace Expert insists it is only a matter of time. The world waits in suspense.
The Vulcan MH/R-22 was developed with a unique and foolproof design intent. Parked near the roadway at American Air Bases, the MH/R-22 is actually designed to BE hi-jacked. Large signs point at the aircraft and say, in various languages, "Don't Take This Helicopter!"
The Plan, developed by an Aerospace Expert skilled in such matters, is simple. Induce the hi-jackers to steal the aircraft, then watch as they become confused with the 18 degree swashplate misalignment, develop control difficulties, and finally perish. What a develishly fiendish plan - make the aircraft unflyable!
Reports indicate little success so far, but the Aerospace Expert insists it is only a matter of time. The world waits in suspense.
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Prefixed by the number 44;R,UBLis the one to keep alert for. However, a cardinal sign of its ineffectiveness, is the various sizes of rock being caused to experiance motion and gravity. BRAVO 52 is reported to be the cause.
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Near as I can tell from the video, the helo had a 6 cylinder aircooled engine (looked like a flat opposed 6) with a single turbo charger attached. The rotor was a 4 blade rotor with a spider on top of the rotor shaft with pitch links going "down" to the rotor blades.
I cannot identify a piston powered helicopter with a rotor arrangment like this. The "rotor" head looks more and more to me like the tail rotor of a UH-60, which has the spider arrangement for pitch control that I believe I saw in the video. But this of course would be unrelated to the 6 cylinder aircooled piston engine (with a turbo charger) that was in the video.
(Edited for spelling error)
[ 15 December 2001: Message edited by: Flight Safety ]
I cannot identify a piston powered helicopter with a rotor arrangment like this. The "rotor" head looks more and more to me like the tail rotor of a UH-60, which has the spider arrangement for pitch control that I believe I saw in the video. But this of course would be unrelated to the 6 cylinder aircooled piston engine (with a turbo charger) that was in the video.
(Edited for spelling error)
[ 15 December 2001: Message edited by: Flight Safety ]




