Dragon helicopters...make up your own mind (Merged)
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Thanks all for the input - very useful
Redeye:
"Don't believe they offer a CPL(H) ground school, which was the question ??"
As I understand it, the course is distance learning with a couple of classroom phases. Not sure if that is what you're getting at (?)
Redeye:
"Don't believe they offer a CPL(H) ground school, which was the question ??"
As I understand it, the course is distance learning with a couple of classroom phases. Not sure if that is what you're getting at (?)
Better red than ...
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Your asking about the CPL(H) Groundschool. To do the groundschool either take the ATPL(H) (note not A as you noted from their website) 13 exams with either GTS/ Bristol/ Oxford/ etc or the CPL(H) with Dragon/ Atlantic.
BSproof indicated taking the course with another company whom I noted did not provide a CPL(H) or ATPL(H) groundschool (with a couple of question marks to allow people to correct me if I am incorrect)
Hope this clarrifies
Nobody has really answered the question yet anyway.
And anyway, WHAT is the difference between H and A in the core aviation subjects like Comms/ Met/ Gen Nav?? Surely there can't be a Met(H) or GNav(H), they are the same syllabus for everybody.
The non-A parts are POF(H); Mass und der Balance(H); and AGK(H) are our bits. Could argue Flight Planning should be an (H) rather than three hours on mostly airways stuff but do the JAR examine flight planning diferently in the CPL(H) exams??
h-r
NB sorry to keep adding stuff in, I'm trying to get some distance from the 666 numbers ...
BSproof indicated taking the course with another company whom I noted did not provide a CPL(H) or ATPL(H) groundschool (with a couple of question marks to allow people to correct me if I am incorrect)
Hope this clarrifies
Nobody has really answered the question yet anyway.
And anyway, WHAT is the difference between H and A in the core aviation subjects like Comms/ Met/ Gen Nav?? Surely there can't be a Met(H) or GNav(H), they are the same syllabus for everybody.
The non-A parts are POF(H); Mass und der Balance(H); and AGK(H) are our bits. Could argue Flight Planning should be an (H) rather than three hours on mostly airways stuff but do the JAR examine flight planning diferently in the CPL(H) exams??
h-r
NB sorry to keep adding stuff in, I'm trying to get some distance from the 666 numbers ...
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No, we live in a world in which you're not allowed to use the forum as a vehicle to vent your resentment of named people who've upset you. The line I deleted from your post was simply that - a gratuitous disparaging remark which added nothing whatsoever to the thread.
(The other deletion was a link to a commercial website.)
If you don't like the way Rotorheads is moderated, I suggest you try 'Just Helicopters' which isn't moderated and may be more to your liking.
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(For the record, the deletion in another post was to a commercial website.)
So once again we live in the world of censorship!
No, we live in a world in which you're not allowed to use the forum as a vehicle to vent your resentment of named people who've upset you. The line I deleted from your post was simply that - a gratuitous disparaging remark which added nothing whatsoever to the thread.
(The other deletion was a link to a commercial website.)
If you don't like the way Rotorheads is moderated, I suggest you try 'Just Helicopters' which isn't moderated and may be more to your liking.
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Why risk dealing with a dodgy company
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PS - I have no connection with Dragon whatsoever; what's your connection!
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To answer the question - they use an abridged version of Bristol's notes, which means they are very good. On the other hand, they appear to have trouble getting instructors and paying them (they even asked me, but long years in charter have given me a bankruptcy warning system). I know a couple of people who said they wished they'd stayed at home and just studied the notes, but the classroom stuff is compulsory. I know that's officially hearsay, but they are people who already have ICAO ATPLs and are very experienced.
To answer another question, the CPL(H) theory is of a higher standard than CPL(A).
Phil
To answer another question, the CPL(H) theory is of a higher standard than CPL(A).
Phil
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I used Dragon.
My advice;
Use a well established ATP school. you'll be using their books in a shortened format anyway and their practise exam web sites (when you find out about them)! May as well do it all with past masters.
Just my opinion
My advice;
Use a well established ATP school. you'll be using their books in a shortened format anyway and their practise exam web sites (when you find out about them)! May as well do it all with past masters.
Just my opinion
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In liquidation
On the government website "company house" Dragon Helicopters is in Liquidation. Check to be sure that Dash Aviation has approval from the CAA to offer cpl (h). The CAA only knew abot Dragon last week, so just check to make sure.
Pugs
click here for company house
http://wck2.companieshouse.gov.uk/d2...f//compdetails
Pugs
click here for company house
http://wck2.companieshouse.gov.uk/d2...f//compdetails
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And you also know someone who wishes he never set eyes on them Paco!
Still, the queen of the skies is giving me a comfy sufficiently distant viewpoint to see the proceedings. Seem to remmber the CAA being less than satisfied with the manner in which Dash's AOC was implemented in Sheffield, or a few other factors.......
Still, the queen of the skies is giving me a comfy sufficiently distant viewpoint to see the proceedings. Seem to remmber the CAA being less than satisfied with the manner in which Dash's AOC was implemented in Sheffield, or a few other factors.......
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For anyone wanting to pursue a claim or indeed contest one, forget the small claims courts.
Do it online it's much simpler and all the paperwork the defendant receives is directly from the court. YOU can issue claims and warrants via this service it is superb. A must bookmark for self employed types.
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A full list of available services here...
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Do it online it's much simpler and all the paperwork the defendant receives is directly from the court. YOU can issue claims and warrants via this service it is superb. A must bookmark for self employed types.
https://www.moneyclaim.gov.uk/csmco2/index.jsp
A full list of available services here...
http://www.hmcourts-service.gov.uk/o...ices/index.htm
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ARINC: That's what we told pugzi a month ago. Sadly although he filed a claim and got a promise to pay, Dragon went into administration on Dec 23 and he didn't get the promise.
Suggest he leans heavily on Dash - who must not be happy that their reputation is linked with Dragon. That's how it is, isn't it ? Dash can walk away from the Dragon creditors without any feeling of guilt ?
Any principles amongst the principals ??
Suggest he leans heavily on Dash - who must not be happy that their reputation is linked with Dragon. That's how it is, isn't it ? Dash can walk away from the Dragon creditors without any feeling of guilt ?
Any principles amongst the principals ??
