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qualityman! unfortunately in many cases machines are often NOT maintained as they should. We have first hand reports from pilots (NOT operators of course) which have forwarded reports to us re: "cheating" on regular maintenance or in two cases regularly go way over the hours on the blades.
We have also received reports that careers were short lived due to pilots insisting and challenging many fine and "highly ethical operators", to strictly comply with required maintenance!
But let us make it very clear here...we have no intention to establish a private CASA!
But simply assist genuine operators in their marketing efforts.
And not suprisingly we have, as mentioned previously, received a number of encouraging and very helpful messages from open-minded operators not only from Australia but from all over the world.
We still look forward and indeed invite all forum participants to come forward with positive critisism and suggestions! Its all about lateral thinking Gentlemen! :-)
We have also received reports that careers were short lived due to pilots insisting and challenging many fine and "highly ethical operators", to strictly comply with required maintenance!
But let us make it very clear here...we have no intention to establish a private CASA!
But simply assist genuine operators in their marketing efforts.
And not suprisingly we have, as mentioned previously, received a number of encouraging and very helpful messages from open-minded operators not only from Australia but from all over the world.
We still look forward and indeed invite all forum participants to come forward with positive critisism and suggestions! Its all about lateral thinking Gentlemen! :-)
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Helidrvr: Wow! someone lit your blue touch paper, regarding internet marketing. Am I right in assuming you have a vested interest in this area? I have learned that over 95% of internet marketing is ineffectual! Can you comment on this. Reading your website (a very professional one I must add), leads me to a section where you are promoting what we in the UK would describe as pyramid selling. Does this carry with it a more successful track record across the water than it would here? It strikes me that everyone is into it in one form or another? I hope it works for you but I do admit to the whole subject leaving me with a bad taste, because of the bad press that goes with it... Good luck with your cookiecutter.....
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Although this concept would never appeal to me personally, there are very similar ideas in North America, utilising cars for advertising. Essentially you get the use of a car for free, or at a reduced lease rate, if you meet the eligibility criteria; which includes how often, and where you drive.
It is not unrealistic to consider that some private owners might want to defray the cost of operating their helicopter by participating in this scheme.
However, it was noted earlier, that some of this might be directed at Operators who are exceeding life limits or operating limitations. In my experience, Operators who work in this manner, rarely change their practices, and the last thing any Advertiser wants, is their name plastered all over the TV or news on the side of a smouldering wreck!
It is not unrealistic to consider that some private owners might want to defray the cost of operating their helicopter by participating in this scheme.
However, it was noted earlier, that some of this might be directed at Operators who are exceeding life limits or operating limitations. In my experience, Operators who work in this manner, rarely change their practices, and the last thing any Advertiser wants, is their name plastered all over the TV or news on the side of a smouldering wreck!
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Chopper1,
Don't get me wrong, I don't intend to totally dismiss your strategies, but as I have already stated, I do not believe your concept would work in the U.K.
I admire your your faith in your product and do wish you the best of luck with it.
My main point is with regards to your statement about improving safety and pilots conditions.
If as you say not all aircraft are maintained properly, and pilots that have queried this have been penalised for doing so, then what makes you believe that Operators who are so Irresponsible and unscrupulous already are suddenly going to have a change of heart and invest their newly found profits into areas they don't care about.
I don't know of one single pilot who would fly in an aircraft they didn't have absolute faith in. Everyone I know would not hesitate to ground an aircraft if they suspected any defects that could affect the safety of the aircraft, their passengers and themselves.
Don't get me wrong, I don't intend to totally dismiss your strategies, but as I have already stated, I do not believe your concept would work in the U.K.
I admire your your faith in your product and do wish you the best of luck with it.
My main point is with regards to your statement about improving safety and pilots conditions.
If as you say not all aircraft are maintained properly, and pilots that have queried this have been penalised for doing so, then what makes you believe that Operators who are so Irresponsible and unscrupulous already are suddenly going to have a change of heart and invest their newly found profits into areas they don't care about.
I don't know of one single pilot who would fly in an aircraft they didn't have absolute faith in. Everyone I know would not hesitate to ground an aircraft if they suspected any defects that could affect the safety of the aircraft, their passengers and themselves.
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Thomas Coupling:
First of all, I thought that my post was very clear about the similarity between the old west and the internet, INCLUDING the fact that 95% of the greenhorns come back disillusioned by the experience. This by the way is just as true for franchises, insurance agencies or any other form of new business startup.
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>> Then, as now, not everyone struck it rich... Many a dreamer was lured out west by the get-rich-quick stories they'd heard. "Thar's gold in them thar hills!" Most of them rushed out west without any survival skills...or work ethic...and were never heard of again. Those who made it back home, often did so as broken men. <<
What you found on my website - a link to the Cookie Cutter Course - is anything BUT a pyramid scheme. You either don't know what a pyramid scheme is or you didn't check the Cookie Cutter. So let me explain:
1. A pyramid scheme can be defined as a promotion where everybody is looking to convince someone else to become an "associate" but nobody sells a product. This is supposed to make everybody rich. NOT! By the way Pyramid marketing is not the same thing as network or multi level marketing. The former is built on thin air the latter on a real product or service. Virtually every sales organization (insurance, mutual funds, real estate to name a few) is based on some multi level formula.
2. Cookie Cutter is nothing but a training course which teaches a novice the basics of e-commerce. It is an END PRODUCT, not a pyramid of distributorships or associates. There are no commissions. I am offering this very economical ($20) course precisely because so many novices fall into the pyramid trap when they try to get involved with e-commerce.
In the very near future, the internet will be as much a part of the fabric that binds us as the PTT is today - only more so. Directly or indirectly every single one of us will be involved if we aren't already. Does the company you work for have a web site? How about the school? What about this forum, does it make money and if so, do you know how?
You are right about one thing. I absolutely LOVE the internet and the possibilities it has to offer. I spent 18 months studying its ins and outs - what a rush!
Believe me, Cookie Cutter is just a brief introduction. The high level courses cost $500 or more but that is overkill unless you really intend to get into the business. As I already wrote there, my earlier post was the poetic achievement of a friend, not my own. I happen to think that it sums up the current state of affairs rather well.
Finally a personal note. All my life, I have endeavored to stay with the front of the pack; to recognize new trends before they become commonplace. In it's early days, the postal service was as revolutionary as the internet is today. In a few short years, I will lose my ATP and sometime later maybe even my classII medical - such is the nature of things. By then I expect to be well postioned to be a 'player' on the internet.
Cheers
P.S. Thanks for the compliment about my web site
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[This message has been edited by helidrvr (edited 08 February 2001).]
First of all, I thought that my post was very clear about the similarity between the old west and the internet, INCLUDING the fact that 95% of the greenhorns come back disillusioned by the experience. This by the way is just as true for franchises, insurance agencies or any other form of new business startup.
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>> Then, as now, not everyone struck it rich... Many a dreamer was lured out west by the get-rich-quick stories they'd heard. "Thar's gold in them thar hills!" Most of them rushed out west without any survival skills...or work ethic...and were never heard of again. Those who made it back home, often did so as broken men. <<
What you found on my website - a link to the Cookie Cutter Course - is anything BUT a pyramid scheme. You either don't know what a pyramid scheme is or you didn't check the Cookie Cutter. So let me explain:
1. A pyramid scheme can be defined as a promotion where everybody is looking to convince someone else to become an "associate" but nobody sells a product. This is supposed to make everybody rich. NOT! By the way Pyramid marketing is not the same thing as network or multi level marketing. The former is built on thin air the latter on a real product or service. Virtually every sales organization (insurance, mutual funds, real estate to name a few) is based on some multi level formula.
2. Cookie Cutter is nothing but a training course which teaches a novice the basics of e-commerce. It is an END PRODUCT, not a pyramid of distributorships or associates. There are no commissions. I am offering this very economical ($20) course precisely because so many novices fall into the pyramid trap when they try to get involved with e-commerce.
In the very near future, the internet will be as much a part of the fabric that binds us as the PTT is today - only more so. Directly or indirectly every single one of us will be involved if we aren't already. Does the company you work for have a web site? How about the school? What about this forum, does it make money and if so, do you know how?
You are right about one thing. I absolutely LOVE the internet and the possibilities it has to offer. I spent 18 months studying its ins and outs - what a rush!
Believe me, Cookie Cutter is just a brief introduction. The high level courses cost $500 or more but that is overkill unless you really intend to get into the business. As I already wrote there, my earlier post was the poetic achievement of a friend, not my own. I happen to think that it sums up the current state of affairs rather well.
Finally a personal note. All my life, I have endeavored to stay with the front of the pack; to recognize new trends before they become commonplace. In it's early days, the postal service was as revolutionary as the internet is today. In a few short years, I will lose my ATP and sometime later maybe even my classII medical - such is the nature of things. By then I expect to be well postioned to be a 'player' on the internet.
Cheers
P.S. Thanks for the compliment about my web site
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You are welcome to visit HELIDRVR here
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I've seen quite a few cases in Canada where a bush contract inculded a contra deal for placement of the customer's name/logo on the helicopter for the duration of the contract. However, I don't think that the customer paid extra for this - the operator was more than happy to do it in return for getting the contract.
Conversely, I can't see why any charter customer would want to be flying around with someone else's "flag" on the helicopter. Especially in corporate charter, this idea might lose you more charter revenue than it will bring in advertising fees.
Conversely, I can't see why any charter customer would want to be flying around with someone else's "flag" on the helicopter. Especially in corporate charter, this idea might lose you more charter revenue than it will bring in advertising fees.
