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Old 13th Dec 2005, 14:06
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PRESSURE SEALīS my dear Dr. Watson

They leak because they need pressure to be tight, therefore they will leak a few drops when shut down.

I would not recommend using bags unless they are opened every night, cause they tend to trap moisture!

I donīt use anything except I wipe everything clean in the morning, however strangely enough 206īs tend to have different leak ratios! They shouldnīt but they do.
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Old 13th Dec 2005, 19:13
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It would be alright if Bell (or someone? ) designed and fitted a suitable scupper with the drain line through the 'broom closet' to the under belly.
The plastic bags also help keep the dust off the servo piston shaft, which can be a big problem in some places.
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Old 13th Dec 2005, 21:00
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Bags it is! Changed as req'd.
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Old 15th Dec 2005, 20:43
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Video Mount for 206B

Hello...

I want to buy a good stabilized pan tilt head for a JetRanger, preferably nose mount.

I am looking for something to stabilize the camera with broadcast quality, although i don't have the money to pay a Tayler or a WesCam or pictor vision system.

Is there an alernative out there in the 20 to 30 US K range?

I want to mount a Sony FX1.

I would really appreciate any info.
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Old 16th Dec 2005, 17:59
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Hola Kiko,

If you want to mount a hand held camera to a 206, and what you need is just a mount to hold the and isolate vibration there are a couple of options, you can purchase or rent a Tyler mount, they are not to expensive. I knew a guy who was selling a side mounted used one for $ 3,000.00 dollars.

They come in two basic flavors, side mounted and nose mounted, for the nose mount you need high skids. The side mounted ones can also have an option to use gyros to stabilze which work pretty nice. The nose mounted ones are remotely controlled by the cameraman.

But both of these options are for occasional use, like shooting a comercial or doing a movie, if you want a contract with a TV station or similar where you need all weather and time you will need a full ENG installation with a ball gyrostabilized camara which under no circumstances will be cheap. There are a couple of vendors in the US but be really careful who you deal with as some of them are real crooks, they sell stolen technology, and not give you the adecuate support which you will need. I know this experience, as I have flown both systems for years.

There are also two companies here in Mexico that you can rent Tyler mounts for a day or two, nose mount and side mount, gyros or not, if you need phone numbers let me know, PM me your email and I will send you contacts.

In any case you have to take into accout that the gyrostabilized ball mounted cameras used in ENG are not in most cases something you can quickly put on and take out of the helicopter, it takes a long time to configure a helicopter for ENG.

Please let me know if I can be of further assitance.

Saludos

Here are two pictures of me while flying with side mounted Tyler mount, gyrostabilized. It's a movie camera but you can mount anything on it.



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Old 18th Dec 2005, 22:03
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Muchas gracias!!!

Blender, PM me with more info about the used side tyler mount... If there is a nose one i am interested too.

This will be for temporary one project, but since i am the owner of the project, i might as well benefit from renting this stuff..

Let me know!!

Thank you very much for you help!
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Old 18th Dec 2005, 22:40
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Ohh how I envy you guys getting to fly with doors off

This is my METAR and itīs pretty good compared to the last few dayīs:


BIRK 18-dec-2005 23:00:00 18-dec-2005 22:56:00 METAR 26021G31KT 9999 VCSH SCT036CB BKN043 02/M05 Q0991 SHSN
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Old 19th Dec 2005, 02:34
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What's VCSH ??? SH=Showers right? But VC?

And is 9999 the visibility?
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Old 19th Dec 2005, 04:23
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Yes, Tyler has a nose mount but it is not stablised. It goes on in about 5 minutes. The middle mount is nice because it does have three gyros you can bolt on.

www.tylermount.com

In North America I believe Panavision is the rental house for Tyler.

Another option is Poly Tech. They make a stabilsed ball camera system similar to the old FLIR systems. It works quite well using a Sony PD170 camera. I recently upgraded ours to a HD camera... They also rent systems but I do not know the price.

Poly Tech

If you need any more information let me know... We operate a full time ENG machine as well as I bolt on at least two other camera mounts a month.
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Old 19th Dec 2005, 06:32
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Thanks for the info.

Looks good to me... Do you know the price for a basic system for a B206 without camera? (I want to put a sony FX1 HDDV cam here).
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Old 19th Dec 2005, 06:38
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I knew a guy who was selling a side mounted used one for $ 3,000.00 dollars.

If KikoLobo doesnīt want to buy it then Iīm interested. PM me if that mount is still avaialable?

VCSH. I think they mean īvicinityī showers and yes 9999 is 10km or better visibilty.
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Old 19th Dec 2005, 14:12
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Talking 206L4.xls CG calculation

Hi,

I look for a 206L4.xls spreadsheet for CG calculations.

Thanks!!!

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Old 19th Dec 2005, 16:23
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206 Wt & Bal

If you provide an e mail address I will forward the excel spread sheet that we use. You can substitute actual mass and moment info for you aircraft.
Have a Great Day
mail to: [email protected]
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Old 20th Dec 2005, 01:18
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There's a 206L one at www.electrocution.com/aviation that you can modify - don't think it needs much, though

Phil
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Old 20th Dec 2005, 03:51
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I knew a guy who was selling a side mounted used one for $ 3,000.00 dollars
A Tylermount for $ 3000??? I take it for $ 3500.

Spunk (being on vacation on the Maledives)
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Old 20th Dec 2005, 06:24
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Thanks, paco - great site.

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Old 20th Dec 2005, 18:58
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Itīs sold.

Do they still ban helicopterīs on the Maldives? Heard they did that after B-212 crash. Is all flying still done on those old Dash-6-100 & 200 Twinotters?
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Talking 206L4 xls CG spreadsheet

Thanks for the info

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Old 23rd Dec 2005, 14:17
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B206 Transition Manual

Hi,

I am trying to find a copy of a B206 transition manual. I understand that Bell do not sell it on its own, and the link that was published on this thread some years ago no longer works. Specifically, I am looking for one that will cover a B206 II, with Seco Fuel Control. Can anyone help?

Thanks,

SBW
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Old 23rd Dec 2005, 14:22
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B206 Bell Transition Manual

Hi,

I am trying to find a copy of a B206 transition manual. I understand that Bell do not sell it on its own. Specifically, I am looking for one that will cover a B206 II, with Seco Fuel Control. Can anyone help?

Thanks,

SBW
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